My parents sometimes took a herbal medicine named "Echinacin" based on the 
plant Echinace purpurea to strengthen their immune system. It is harmless. I 
take it as well occasionally, it is available as drops or pills. Pure herbs, no 
chemicals. I think the feeling that it might help already helps. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echinacea_purpureaValerian extract helps against 
sleeplessness. It has only mild effects, but it can help if you can not sleep 
at all. I guess you know both herbs 
already.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerian_(herb)-J.
-------- Original message --------From: Prof David West <[email protected]> 
Date: 6/14/20  20:16  (GMT+01:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRIAM] 
alternative response Frank,I think the point of the herbalist is not that a 
herb will attack a virus directly, but that herbals will enhance a person's 
immune system in general, including ability to defend against viruses. That is 
a little less farfetched than the idea, I think, your comment was directed 
towards.Nick,Not as a 'scientist' but merely as a professional and in the 
discipline of software development. I have substituted my own judgement against 
the mainstream of Software Engineering since 1968 when SE was invented. My 
determination to do so is simply the fact that I am right and the rest of the 
world is insanely wrong.  :)davewOn Sun, Jun 14, 2020, at 10:11 AM, 
[email protected] wrote:Hi, Dave, I am always interested when any of our 
members – we who are so hard on the “tin hat people” --,  departsfrom 
scientific orthodoxy.  What determines when a scientist substitutes his own 
judgement for that of colleagues in other disciplines?  That’s not a rhetorical 
question.  And, having done that, why would on ever go to a doctor again?  What 
about Linus Pauling and vitamin C?  Has anybody heard from Bruce?  Did he make 
it across?    Nick Nicholas ThompsonEmeritus Professor of Ethology and 
PsychologyClark 
[email protected]https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/  From: 
Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Prof David WestSent: Sunday, 
June 14, 2020 7:15 AMTo: [email protected]: [FRIAM] alternative response 
My time in Amsterdam put me dead center in the Vegan / Vegetarian / Herbal / 
Alternative Medicine community, with whom I still correspond. I received this 
book and a strong recommendation from them. Most of the people in that 
community are following the ideas in the book and claim high effectiveness. I 
have a deep respect for acupuncture and Ayurveda and similar traditions, but am 
highly skeptical of the "new age" stuff. Nevertheless, in case someone is 
curious/interested. Herbal Antivirals: Natural Remedies for Emerging & 
Resistant Viral Infections  Take control of your health and learn how to use 
herbs safely and effectively to prevent and fight off a wide range of viral 
infections, including coronaviruses, SARS, influenza, encephalitis, dengue 
fever, and more. Expert herbalist Stephen Harrod Buhner offers this exhaustive 
guide to understanding the antiviral properties of dozens of herbs, backed up 
by the most recent research studies and findings. In addition to in-depth 
profiles of the herbs, Buhner provides complete, step-by-step instructions for 
obtaining high-quality herbs and preparing and using customized herbal 
formulations for strengthening the immune system and addressing each virus. 
Discover how these natural remedies can help keep you and your family healthy 
and strong. davew- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. .FRIAM 
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