I thought he was referring to Trump. Am I missing something? --- Frank C. Wimberly 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 10:09 AM Michel Bloch <mbl...@mountvernon.fr> wrote: > I don’t if Professor Raoult is right or not, but, for him, the word > « idiot » is inappropriate, you might use “character » or “unusual” or > “bizarre”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didier_Raoult#Citations > > > > Amicalement > > Michel Bloch > > *http://mountvernon.fr/ <http://mountvernon.fr/>* > > *06 80 57 3398* > > > > *De :* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *De la part de* Steven A Smith > *Envoyé :* mardi 24 mars 2020 16:27 > *À :* friam@redfish.com > *Objet :* Re: [FRIAM] Choroquine-phosphate Death > > > > > > On 3/24/20 8:56 AM, Prof David West wrote: > > France is pushing chloroquine hard. A FriAMer has relatives there. > > > > Just because the first person that told people about this was an idiot > does not make the information wrong. > > > > He was far from the first, just the loudest/brashest. He *would* have us > believe that he personally *discovered* this off-label use... but that IS > how he rolls.. no surprises. > > There is a presumed responsibility when you have a megaphone. But that is > one of the broken norms for worse (and better). > > The unintended consequences of his mass-tweet/news-conference/rally > announcements are sweeping. I do not believe he *intended* to cause a slam > on the chloroquine supply chain, nor for self-described self-reliant folks > like the AZ couple to run out and make a small/obvious but terminal mistake. > > > > davew > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Barry MacKichan wrote: > > Elon Musk had a serious brush with malaria about 20 years ago, and is > evidently one of the insistent sources pushing for chloroquine. Sorry, I > don’t have references. > > —Barry > > On 24 Mar 2020, at 0:42, Steven A Smith wrote: > > My first reaction to this was: THANK YOU DEAR LEADER! > > > > > https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/man-died-chloroquine-phosphate-coronavirus > > > > But, I don't know if we can attribute this kind of accident to POTUS45 > > or not... my gut instinct is that his constant raving about it is what > > triggered these people to give it a whirl. > > > > I have one toe in the survivalist/prepper community and they are known > > for aquiring and stockpiling antibiotics sold for fish/aquariums. All > > the major human antibiotics have fish equivalents FishMox and FishFlox > > for example. There is much discussion/lore/wisdom in that community > > around which products/sources are actually pharmaceutical-grade and > > honest-dosage and well-regulated. I didn't know of chloroquine > > phosphate or it's use... they are saying "cleaning" but I think they > > mean disinfecting. It sounds to me that the problem was dosage, not > > contamination, but the product they used may have been cut or mixed with > > something toxic to humans. > > > > I've a friend who lived in Ghana for years with Peace Corps who > > contracted malaria and was medicated with one of the chloroquine drugs. > > He understood then (25 years ago) that it was the third world's > > "silver-bullet" and in his case it turned his symptoms around > > (life-threatening) in hours (on an IV).... his response to this > > prescription-from-POTUS is that the death rate in the third world could > > spike if the first world diverts their supply (probably coming from > > China?) abruptly for our own use. > > > > I also heard that patients depending on these chloroquines in the first > > world are already finding that the supplies are drying up and many > > cannot get their usual refills. Doh! > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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