I'd worry about about how to use that number. The prevailing view in both academic departments and industry is that Java is on its way out. For the kinds of things that Java is good at, scripting languages have advanced so much that they are replacing Java. For large scale applications, industry never used Java.
It's a major problem for schools that have their whole curriculum in Java. When their students graduate they find the job opportunities can be very limited if they don't have experience with other languages like C++. For our students that are not CS majors but need to know some programming, the demand ranges from C++ and Matlab for engineering majors to python for the animation industry with a lot movement towards java script. It's interesting that all the feedback I get from industry is that they (like us academics) hate C++ but they have yet to find a suitable replacement for large scale programming jobs such as developing and maintaining a game engine. Ed __________ Ed Angel Chair, Board of Directors, Santa Fe Complex Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico 1017 Sierra Pinon Santa Fe, NM 87501 505-984-0136 (home) an...@cs.unm.edu 505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel http://artslab.unm.edu http://sfcomplex.org On Jul 28, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > ACM Technotes reported today: > > Java/J2EE is the programming and developing skill in most demand with more > than 14,000 open job positions nationally, according to a July report from IT > job board Dice. > > -- rec -- > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Grant Holland <grant.holland...@gmail.com> > wrote: > Dave, > > What is your opinion about certification in the Java world at this point? > > Grant > > > Prof David West wrote: >> >> Pamela, my replies do not seem to get posted to the list, so I included >> your direct address. >> >> There is no rating or accrediting body for certifications. The ACM/IEEE >> could and perhaps should do this, but they have a conflict of interest >> in that they offer their own set of certifications. >> >> You are absolutely correct that the quality of the programs varies >> significantly - some vendor certifications, like Cisco's, have a very >> good reputation and they also certify trainers. Others, like Scrum >> Master are hideous jokes (I am a "Certified Scrum Master). Microsoft >> Certs are in the middle, good except when the right answer conflicts >> with Microsofts answer in which case right loses to might. >> >> A lot of universities, especially two-year schools offer courses that >> are, in effect, certification test preparation. >> >> If you let me know what certifications you are most interested in, I >> might be able to provide some direction. >> >> dave west >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:00 -0600, "Pamela McCorduck" <pam...@well.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Does there exist a rating agency or group that rates IT certification >>> programs the way several such groups exist for colleges and universities? >>> My son-in-law wishes to upgrade his skills, but we're very concerned that >>> some of the programs are nothing but fancy scams. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Pamela >>> >>> >>> >>> "God keep me from ever completing anything. This whole book is but a >>> draft--nay, but the draft of a draft. Oh, Time, Strength, Cash, and >>> Patience!" >>> >>> Melville, "Moby Dick" >>> >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>> >>> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> > > -- > Grant Holland > VP, Product Development and Software Engineering > NuTech Solutions > 404.427.4759 > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
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