Look at this way then - if he'd had access to a zillion parameter
mega-simulation, do you think we'd all be safe and cozy and *wouldn't* be in
the middle of a financial crisis?

R

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Douglas Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> You're right of course.  I mean, look at the wonderful guidance his model
> has provided so far.  Positively robust.  It certainly helped predict our
> current "credit crunch".
>
> Didn't it?
>
> Sorry, I believe Bernanke is every bit as inept as many of the rest of our
> top officials, and I don't believe toy models will ever suffice at
> predicting the behavior of large, complex systems such as the US economy.
>
> Sadly, it didn't surprise me to discover that this is exactly what Bernanke
> was trying to do.
>
> --Doug
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Robert Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Kinda depends on what he's trying to model. If you mean "predict $ vs
>> Euro, price of gas, price of Wachovia stock one year from now" you are
>> right. But if he's modeling hugely aggregated stuff (inflation, GDP,
>> unemployment, national debt) and the impact his policies would have then
>> it's quite possible he'll get just as robust results from a "simplistic"
>> model as he would from some zillion parameter simulation.
>> Robert
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Douglas Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>>> Answer to #2:  No, but I'm pretty damn sure 20 differential equations
>>> don't capture the market dynamics necessary to accurately model the US/World
>>> economy.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Robert Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> A couple of points:
>>>>
>>>>    1. At least he's not using Excel
>>>>    2. Are you really REALLY sure that the ultra-micro sims in which you
>>>>    specialise lead to better policy decisions than the supposedly 
>>>> simplistic
>>>>    alternatives? (Bear in mind that you posted a couple of weeks ago 
>>>> saying you
>>>>    could get your simulations to produce pretty much whatever result your
>>>>    stakeholders wanted).
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>   On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Douglas Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/03/us_economy_model/
>>>>>
>>>>> *"...it implements the 20 equations to describe the economy during a
>>>>> credit crunch in a programming language called Matlab from MathWorks*
>>>>> ."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry, but all I can say is "Fuck me to tears."   The US's head
>>>>> financier is an idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Doug Roberts, RTI International
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