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A remote connection working to display images from the glxgears or xeyes 
commands run on the linux host forwarded to your local machine does not mean 
Freeview graphics will do the same.  If Freeview still displays an empty 
or black screen, then there could be issues with OpenGL graphics running on or 
being sent from the linux host.   The system requirements for Freesurfer 
include the following for running Freeview,
Graphics card: 3D graphics card with its own graphics memory 
& accelerated OpenGL drivers
Updating the OpenGL drivers on the linux host will sometimes enable Freeview to 
display images remotely.  My understanding is Linux servers need Mesa 
packages installed to support newer versions of OpenGL.  If the Freesurfer 
Debian or RPM package installer was used to install the Freesurfer distribution 
on the Linux host, then at least some of those packages should now be 
installed, i.e., we do not recommend using the tar archive to “install” 
Freesurfer.  We don’t know how EXPANSE installs/maintains Freesurfer or 
what their servers support for graphics hardware.
GLX is the X-windows extension for OpenGL graphics that can be tunneled thru a 
remote SSH connection.  But GLX may not work with the newer versions of 
OpenGL over ssh.  A workaround for this is to install and use VirtualGL on 
the Linux host.  If VirtualGL is supported/installed on EXPANSE, try 
prefacing the freeview command with “vglrun” - 
see https://secure-web.cisco.com/10kzDiIcCSK5wSi3KZ4WHry8djBXAuam589oKZqs5TvrpZwtx_bg2pMLPYhP8Jy_MCc-EzDmY-dqikD_6634fXGIuWxPmIpVKc_7FvQJ1WLhxdWKQNREcPKVjjXtooJBwDbQMYGNkRFTt8kV6opy3zDRKCw2VFxn2ADZvwE-CJh_5FiVuijgz3-BKzUFkbC6C6v0BjwjdzAd3rvsTA-OMSKycamq6dtAADv6xzHGy1pd8-jWOBWz55-o6eUCbotpP3Xjkaj44Yj6JNn9W87mEonAk4nFRD7f8ZUJdi0BwhynYiOrU-XXN9NEleN4SBmflmdoT6sWwWvQHcooLyMlnww/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.starnet.com%2Fhelp%2Fvirtualgl
  We use VirtualGL and graphics acceleration on a few Linux workstations 
to accommodate Freeview running on Linux and viewing its 3D graphics thru a 
remote VPN connection.
XQuartz on the Mac is the equivalent of X-Windows on Linux.   The Mac 
should be using Xquartz 2.8.2 or newer for use with the Freesurtfer 7.4.X 
releases.  I think X-Quartz will open automatically to view X-Windows 
based graphics on the Mac.
If the EXPANSE linux machines are setup to support remote connections to view 
3D X-windows graphics then the IT support staff will know about the options 
above.  File/open a ticket with them, ask them what they support, and how 
to setup your environment.  If they do not support it, an alternative is 
to install Freesurfer on your Mac and download/copy over the data to view with 
Freeview.
- R.
On Jan 11, 2024, at 14:18, Dong, Yilei <yid...@health.ucsd.edu> 
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team, I have Freesurfer installed on UCSD's Expanse HPC, which uses the 
Rocky Linux 8 operating system. Whenever we try to do ssh tunneling and more 
specifically, logging into our HPC via ssh -X to open up Freeview's GUI, it 
always aborts. Prior to logging into my HPC from my Mac laptop's terminal, I 
always open up XQuartz. Another colleague of mine has also encountered similar 
issues, where they have managed to get X11 and Xeyes to run, but also 
Freeview's window keeps aborting. We have also tried to follow 
instructions from the following links when it comes to getting ssh tunneling to 
work correctly in hopes of making Freeview's GUI pop up: MailScanner has 
detected a possible fraud attempt from "secure-web.cisco.com" claiming to 
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 we operate from a Mac computer, is it better to use a VNC or XQuartz for ssh 
tunneling? In addition, can we find an error log in Freesurfer's directory to 
find out exactly why Freeview keeps aborting in our circumstance?Thank 
you. Sincerely,Yilei <Screen Shot 2024-01-11 at 11.01.27 
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