If the difference is only between 3.0761 and 3.0327, then that is
acceptably small to disregard.
On 11/21/2023 10:40 AM, 笹林大樹 wrote:
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Dear Dr. Greve,
I trust this message finds you well. I wanted to follow up on the
inquiry I posted to the FreeSurfer mailing list a while back regarding
"About Mean LGI value" as below.
I understand you are busy, and I appreciate your dedication to the
community. If possible, could you revisit my query when time permits?
Thank you for your time, and I look forward to hearing from you.
Best,
Daiki Sasabayashi
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Dear. Dr. Greve,
Thank you for your response.
I attached both “*h.aparc.pial_lgi.stats” and
“*h.aparc.mean_pial_lgi.stats” files.
For example, in left hemisphere, mean LGI value is 3.0761 (SegId 1,
Seg0001, is it correct as mean LGI value?), while the average of the
LGI values is about 3.0327 (the sum of the LGI values of the 34 DK
atlas ROIs divided by 34: value calculated here).
Are these values acceptable?
Daiki Sasabayashi
2023/11/09 9:33、Douglas N. Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>のメール:
How different are the values? Those two stats files are created with
different programs, so there could be some small differences. But if
you're seeing large differences, then that is something else. If the
latter, then send both stats files.
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Dear Freesurfer experts,
I have calculated the mean LGI value for each hemisphere by
referring to previous archives below.
However, this mean LGI value differs from the average of the LGI
values listed in *h/aparc.pial_lgi.stats (i.e., the sum of the LGI
values of the 34 DK atlas ROIs divided by 34).
Are these values originally subject to discrepancy?
Best,
Daiki Sasabayashi
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It is giving you values for two segmentations: inside the label and
outside the label. Use --id 1 to get only values inside the cortex
label
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Dear FreeSurfer experts
I am working on the gyrification index of schizophrenia
patients. I had collated global brain values such as thickness,
GM, and WM volumes. In addition, I wanted to tabulate
gyrification values. Using the below link I was able to extract
the hemispheric mean gyrification values.
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But it is giving me 2 rows of output that are adding more
ambiguity to the existing problem. Below is the command which I
used to get mean gyrification for the left hemisphere and also
the corresponding output.
*Command Line: *
mri_segstats --slabel CSRI104 lh
/usr/local/freesurfer//subjects/CSRI104/label/lh.cortex --i
/usr/local/freesurfer//subjects/CSRI104/surf/lh.pial_lgi --sum
lh.aparc.pial_lgi.stats
*Output: *
# NRows 2
# NTableCols 10
# ColHeaders Index SegId NVertices Area_mm2 StructName Mean
StdDev Min Max Range
1 0 6879 4687.8 Seg0000 2.4509 0.2838
1.8067 2.8873 1.0806
2 1 128054 84259.7 Seg0001 3.0148 0.6366
1.9369 4.7611 2.8242 My confusion is that which row I
should take it as a mean gyrification value for the left
hemisphere (seg0000 or seg0001)?Please guide me if there is a
way to combine two hemispheric values and make it as
mean gyrification alike mean thickness.
With regards
Korann
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FreeSurfer experts
I am trying to extract the mean gyrification values for the whole
brain alike cortical thickness.
We have all the whole-brain parameters in 'aparc.stats' file. But
we do not have one for the gyrification index. Is there a way to
do it?
Would be grateful for your help.
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