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Dear Freesurfer experts,

I have calculated the mean LGI value for each hemisphere by referring to 
previous archives below. 
However, this mean LGI value differs from the average of the LGI values listed 
in *h/aparc.pial_lgi.stats (i.e., the sum of the LGI values of the 34 DK atlas 
ROIs divided by 34). 
Are these values originally subject to discrepancy?

Best,

Daiki Sasabayashi

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It is giving you values for two segmentations: inside the label and outside the 
label. Use --id 1 to get only values inside the cortex label
On 9/9/2020 11:27 AM, vittal korann wrote:
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Dear FreeSurfer experts

I am working on the gyrification index of schizophrenia patients. I had 
collated global brain values such as thickness, GM, and WM volumes. In 
addition, I wanted to tabulate gyrification values. Using the below link I was 
able to extract the hemispheric mean gyrification values.
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But it is giving me 2 rows of output that are adding more ambiguity to the 
existing problem. Below is the command which I used to get mean gyrification 
for the left hemisphere and also the corresponding output.
    *Command Line: *

    mri_segstats --slabel CSRI104 lh
    /usr/local/freesurfer//subjects/CSRI104/label/lh.cortex --i
    /usr/local/freesurfer//subjects/CSRI104/surf/lh.pial_lgi --sum
lh.aparc.pial_lgi.stats 
    *Output: *

    # NRows 2
    # NTableCols 10
    # ColHeaders  Index SegId NVertices Area_mm2 StructName Mean
    StdDev Min Max Range
      1   0      6879     4687.8  Seg0000     2.4509     0.2838  
    1.8067     2.8873     1.0806
      2   1    128054    84259.7  Seg0001     3.0148     0.6366  
1.9369     4.7611     2.8242 
My confusion is that which row I should take it as a mean gyrification value 
for the left hemisphere (seg0000 or seg0001)?
Please guide me if there is a way to combine two hemispheric values and make it 
as mean gyrification alike mean thickness.
With regards
Korann


On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 4:51 PM vittal korann <vittalkor...@gmail.com 
<mailto:vittalkor...@gmail.com <mailto:vittalkor...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
    FreeSurfer experts

    I am trying to extract the mean gyrification values for the whole
    brain alike cortical thickness.
    We have all the whole-brain parameters in 'aparc.stats' file. But
    we do not have one for the gyrification index. Is there a way to
    do it?

    Would be grateful for your help.

    Best
    Korann
    */
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