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Hi Yujing,

Thanks for your reply – I have a follow up query (see email thread below):

I have both a cross-sectional aim and a longitudinal aim I am hoping to explore 
with FreeSurfer. While they are separate aims, some participants are present in 
both the cross-sectional and longitudinal arm. Currently I have run recon-all 
on all participants for my study using the standard recon-all command. As 
mentioned, I am hoping to do hippocampal subfield analysis (both 
cross-sectional and longitudinal).

I have read both the hippocampal subfield and longitudinal pipelines available 
from FreeSurfer (linked below):

https://secure-web.cisco.com/1_iq2Ortiz8d4uJhrtEXKZ_Row3SgFJsQNSJUW3b3hm3Fpyvv5sgZR-m4xdjP3Z6_2isSOMQhCU8MRxYVOpq-wsDe0LhbN8SiW48hsAGJdad_Q9Rtk_v2ev-vu6dTtSwkmEAg4sMTudXxhQ6l_omqdcZ5t9qUqJ-XsyszO_Dm0lqUbyrbPT0cSp2Nfp3K8nocfh7Lb8kgqsSzV_zXgsGscmSj-8CPjJkIIWzAkN_JDX41FMLqJgCiScG73AwWrhMnJ4Wb9tYZDCilC-2Fup0qu1J0PKTp0EavwmpjblLt8caLhQS2VUUca2hYZFQ1ApYKgG4hOXqj1JYHXI00qmSMlw/https%3A%2F%2Fsurfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%2Ffswiki%2FLongitudinalProcessing

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I was planning on running the longitudinal recon-all pipeline as it seems that 
running longitudinal pipeline allows for greater reliability as "the subject is 
used as their own control". But if I do this, then the subjects that are also 
in the cross-sectional arm will potentially have different outputs (even though 
they are the same scan) compared to outputs from the longitudinal pipeline. 
This would be the same for the subfield analysis.

What is the best approach here? Would I be better off running all participants 
(even those with one T1-weighted scan) with the longitudinal pipeline so that 
every participant is treated the homogenously?

Let me know if I need to clarify anything!
Warm regards,
Jack


Hi Jack,

Longitudinal recon-all pipeline is available in Freesurfer 7.3.2.

To do longitudinal segmentation using the hippocampal subfield pipeline, it is 
a requirement that the data have been processed with the longitudinal stream 
Freesurfer.

Best,

Yujing



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Subject: [Freesurfer] Longitudinal pipeline for FreeSurfer (v7.3.2)


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Hi there,

I am hoping to process some longitudinal data using the longitudinal recon-all 
pipeline available in FreeSurfer:
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Will this pipeline work for FreeSurfer v7.3.2? I cannot see any resources to 
suggest this is the case.

Additionally, I am hoping to conduct some longitudinal analysis using the 
hippocampal subfield pipeline:
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Would the best course of action be to run recon-all with the longitudinal 
pipeline first (assuming it is applicable for freeSurfer v7.3.2) and then use 
the longitudinal command for post-hoc subfield analysis?:
segmentHA_T1_long.sh <baseID>  [SUBJECTS_DIR]

Thank you,
Jack


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