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Thanks for your reply, Wang. 
Sorry if the question was not clear. I will try to elaborate better. 
Here is a cropped image from the previous screenshot. This is a T2 sequence, 
and with a manipulated contrast, so the overall brightness is very high. 


I segmented the elephant brain MRI into grey-, pial-, and white-matter. Using 
'mri_tesselate' command, I got GM-WM boundaries (yellow surface) and GM-pial 
matter boundary (red surface). 
Then, I got cortical thickness as distance b/w these surfaces, using mri_diff 
command, and I can visualise this on GM-WM (yellow) surface (at the green 
arrow). 
However, I want to visualize this on the red surface (where the pink arrow is), 
but I can't. 
The closest is, I can see this on the most outer pial surface (where the blue 
arrow is), and as that is purely noise (which makes sense) and not even useful 
visualisation. 

In essence, the most useful information for me is at GM-pial boundary (the pink 
arrow)- for inflating, measuring curvature, or surface area or visualising the 
cortical thickneess. 
I hope this clarifies the problem. 
Thanks in advance. 

with regards, 
malav 


From: "Wang, Ruopeng" <[email protected]> 
To: "Freesurfer support list" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2023 4:47:08 PM 
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] place pial matter on top of the cortex using 
segmentation volume 



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I’m not sure if I understood what you are trying to show. If you want to show 
the cortical thickness on top of the pial surface, you can load it as an 
overlay. 

Ruopeng 




On Jun 14, 2023, at 7:30 AM, Malav Shah < [ mailto:[email protected] | 
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Dear freeesurfer team, 
Thank you for your support. I have cortical thickness measurements. I want to 
know if I can visualise it on top of the pial matter surface. 
I guess my mail missed the thread conversation, so asking as a new issue. 

At the moment, I can see only white matter surface in its appropriate form. 
Pial surface looks more like a blanket on top of the grey matter, rather than 
bedsheet as it should ideally look. 
I understand that's the issue because Iextract pial matter with mri_tesselate 
command from tissue segmentation (white-, pial- and grey-matter labels). 
I think I am looking for pial matter surface that the command 
'mris_place_surface' generates in traditional recon-all pipeline, and want to 
measure its curvature and surface area). 

Can you please suggest how can use that command, or some other alternate to see 
pial mattter on top of the cortex? 

Thank you in advance. 
- malav 
<pial_matter_blancket.png> 

Malav Shah 
PhD candidate, Michael Brecht Lab, 
Humboldt University zu Berlin. 
(+49) 163-216-9391 
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