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Dear Eugenio and Philipp,

Thank you very much for your suggestions. Could you please give more input
on "acquire the T1WI double and average it after coregistration, this
increases the SNR".

Should aquire twise the same sequence with 1x1x2 voxel dimension?

Thanks
Ramesh


On Fri, 2 Apr, 2021, 9:00 PM Iglesias Gonzalez, Juan E., <
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> That all sounds right, thanks a lot Philipp!
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> Juan Eugenio Iglesias
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> Hi,
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> I try to answer but Eugenio may also add comments. Several points that are
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> - 1.5 Tesla and 1x1x1 mm3 are at the limit of what the algorithm can
> manage.
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> - Post-aquisition reslicing to a higher resolution does not really
> increase the information content. Internally the algorithm works at a much
> higher resolution, anyway.
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> - If possible, switch to 3 Tesla.
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> - If possible and this is a prospective study, add a coronal T2 image and
> use the bi-channel option. See papers of Iglesias et al. on this.
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> - What you could also do on a 1.5 T is acquire the T1WI double and average
> it after coregistration, this increases the SNR.
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> - Generally, isometric resolutions are good due to the symmetry, of course.
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> - Also on 1.5 T, you may go bit below 1 mm with good head immobilization,
> and a longer scanning time. BRAVO in general is a good T1 option.
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> Best,
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> Philipp
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> Dear experts,
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> Sorry for reposting. I am expecting some response from experts, so that I
> can proceed with confidence.
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> For our project work, we are looking for hippocampal  and its
> subfield volumes. Using GE 1.5T scanner, we tried a 3D BRAVO sequence with
> 1x1x1 resolution, 256x256x160 dimension with 8* flip angle which produced
> images with a lot of noise. Then we tried the same sequence with 1x1x2
> resolution, and 256x256x80 FOV, which produced a clean image without noise.
> When we reformatted the images, it produces 0.5x0.5x1 resolution with
> 512x512x172 dimension.
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> Is this sequence good for hippocampal volume estimation and subfield
> segmentation (also for whole-brain VBM analysis)?
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> Could you please suggest to me a correct sequence, if need to be changed?
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> Regards
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> Ramesh
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