fname is the name of the file you want to load for every subject (the label 
file name in your case). Subject 1 is the FS id of the first subject you want 
to load (followed by subject 2, ...)

cheers
Bruce

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Hi Bruce,



Thank you for your reply! What is the difference between <fname> and 
<subject1>. I’m having some trouble running this command.



Best,

Kristi



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Sorry, it doesn’t have the greatest help ??



mris_spherical_average

usage: mris_spherical_average [option] <which> <fname> <hemi> <spherical surf> 
<subject 1> ... <output>

where which is one of

            coords

            label

            vals

            curv

            area



so something like



mris_spherical_average label <label file name> lh sphere.reg <subject list> 
<output label file name>





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Hi Bruce,



Thank you for your reply! I have saved the sulcal labels as a .label file. I’m 
a bit confused – what flags did you use with this command to create a 
probability per vertex map?



Best,

Kristi



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Did you try mris_spherical_average? I have definitely used it for this (among 
other things). I assume you saved the sulcal labels to a .label file?



Cheers

Bruce



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Hi Doug,



That’s exactly what I mean. We are drawing them directly on FreeView by 
creating a closed path on the white surface and filling it (see attachment for 
reference).



Best,

Kristi



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what do you mean by painted? Do you mean you drew them on there using FreeView?

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Hi Doug,



The sulci are .label format because they were painted directly on the surface 
using FreeSurfer 7.1.



Best,

Kristi



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What format is your sulcus in?

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Good afternoon,



I hope this email finds you well.

I am in the process of “painting” MRI surfaces from the Human connectome 
project in FreeSurfer, meaning creating labels on the surfaces to analyze 
sulcal morphology. We are interested in the spatial variability of the sulcus 
and thus, want to create surface spatial probability maps using FreeSurfer 
(please see attachment for an example of such surface probability maps). These 
maps would represent the likelihood of each vertex on the FreeSurfer fsaverage 
surface belonging to the sulcus of interest (from 0% to 100%).

To obtain these probability maps, I:

  1.  Painted the sulcus of interest on the surface by creating a .label file.
  2.  Registered this .label file to fsaverage (mri_label2label)
  3.  Converted the .label file to vol (mri_label2vol)
  4.  Converted it to a surface file (mri_vol2surf)
  5.  Concatenated the data to create an average (mri_concat --mean)
  6.  Blurred the data and loaded the blurred average as an overlay onto the 
fsaverage pial (mris_fwhm)

Because this seems very convoluted, my question becomes: Is there a more direct 
way to generate these maps from the labels themselves, rather than going from 
label to vol, then back to surf?

Finally, I would like these maps to represent a 0-100% range of each vertex in 
fsaverage belonging to the sulcus of interest. However, this method creates a 
0-1 range (please see colour bar in attachment). Is there a way to change this 
to a percentage?

Thank you very much for your time and help. Please let me know if you have any 
questions.

Best,
Kristi





Kristi Drudik

Ph.D. Student, Clinical Psychology



Montreal Neurological Institute

McGill University

Montreal, Canada





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