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Thank you so much for sharing the ideas, Bruce!






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&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Re: Freesurfer skullstripping error (Fischl, Bruce)
&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. Re: arguments to use after pial edits (Darko Komneni?)
&nbsp;&nbsp; 3. Re: arguments to use after pial edits (Glasser, Matthew)
&nbsp;&nbsp; 4. Fwd: Issue with custom label (Catherine Tallman)
&nbsp;&nbsp; 5. Re: Extract he value of area and volume in the fsaverage for
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; every subject {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} 
{Disarmed}
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} (???)
&nbsp;&nbsp; 6. Freesurfer skullstripping error ( LIN, Yezhe )


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 22:18:08 +0000
From: "Fischl, Bruce" <bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu&gt;
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer skullstripping error
To: freesurfer <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu&gt;
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Hi Yezhe

It depends a lot on what your resolution, read out direction, bandwidth and 
field strength are. We generally fix these with T2 or FLASH scans at the same 
resolution/geometry/readout as the T1. Otherwise they are pretty tough as the 
dura is close enough to the gray matter that you can?t see any space between 
them

Cheers
Bruce

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Dear Freesurfer users,


Hope this finds you well.

I preprocessed our dataset with recon-all <subj&gt; -s <subj&gt; -all -qcache 
and found a number of our subjects had different levels of skullstrip errors. I 
tried fixing them by a couple of different approaches, such as -gcut and 
adjusted watershed threshold, but they both failed to fix the overlapping of 
dura mater (Fig1 and 2). I tried two methods on different subjects and received 
the same outcome. I wonder if you have any ideas to fix this error. At this 
point, for some who had less skullstripping, I can erase them manually and run 
-autorecon-pial or -make. But for the others with multiple locations of 
skullstripping (like Fig 3 and 4), do you have any ideas on how to approach to 
them at a systemic level? Also I found the skullstripping error in over half of 
our subjects, is it normal that we have a such proportion?



Thank you so much!

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Best regards,

Yezhe

Yezhe Lin, MD MMed&nbsp; (she/her/hers)

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 01:23:00 +0100
From: Darko Komneni? <komnen...@gmail.com&gt;
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] arguments to use after pial edits
To: freesurfer <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu&gt;
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Thanks Matt!
Should I also add the -autorecon3 flag, or does that get performed
automatically if I put in "autorecon2"?
Best,
Darko


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&gt; Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 19:16:06 +0000
&gt; From: "Glasser, Matthew" <glass...@wustl.edu&gt;
&gt; Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] arguments to use after pial edits {Disarmed}
&gt; To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu&gt;
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&gt; I find the recon-all table to be helpful:
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&gt; In this case, you probably need to run -autorecon2, as all subsequent
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 00:25:57 +0000
From: "Glasser, Matthew" <glass...@wustl.edu&gt;
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] arguments to use after pial edits
To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu&gt;
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I think so.

Matt.

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Thanks Matt!
Should I also add the -autorecon3 flag, or does that get performed 
automatically if I put in "autorecon2"?
Best,
Darko


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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 19:16:06 +0000
From: "Glasser, Matthew" <glass...@wustl.edu<mailto:glass...@wustl.edu&gt;&gt;
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] arguments to use after pial edits {Disarmed}
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I find the recon-all table to be helpful:

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In this case, you probably need to run -autorecon2, as all subsequent steps are 
affected by the brainmask.mgz file.

Matt.


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 16:28:07 -0800
From: Catherine Tallman <ctall...@ucsd.edu&gt;
Subject: [Freesurfer] Fwd: Issue with custom label
To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu&gt;
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Hello,

I was wondering if there were any updates on this question?

Thank you,
Catherine

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From: Catherine Tallman <ctall...@ucsd.edu&gt;
Date: Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 8:57 AM
Subject: Issue with custom label
To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu&gt;


Hello,

After running mri_vol2label I created a custom label named test.label. When
I try to load the label onto lh.pial, I receive the following error: "Could
not load label from <path&gt;". The file is saved within the path folder
itself. Within the terminal I receive the warning "label has not been
mapped to surface". I was wondering what might be causing this issue?
Attached is the label file.

mri_vol2label --c mri/aparc+aseg.mgz --id 1016 --l label/lh.test.label

Thank you,
Catherine

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University of California, San Diego


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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 08:59:19 +0800 (GMT+08:00)
From: ??? <meng...@csu.edu.cn&gt;
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Extract he value of area and volume in the
        fsaverage for every subject {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed}
        {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed}
To: "Freesurfer support list" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu&gt;
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Yes, what should I do if there is something wrong


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????:2020-11-30 01:22:22 (???)
???: "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu&gt;
??:
??: Re: [Freesurfer] Extract he value of area and volume in the fsaverage for 
every subject {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} 
{Disarmed}

You mean that you are getting a different result between the voxel wise 
analysis and the ROI-wise analysis? And you created the ROI from the region 
that is significant in the voxel-wise analysis? If so, then I think something 
is wrong


On 11/17/2020 8:08 PM, ??? wrote:


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I got the sum area and average area of the label, there is no significant 
difference between the mTBI group and health control, either.However, the label 
was significant different in the fsaverage between mTBI group and health 
control after multiple control. Did this correct?


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???:"Douglas N. Greve" <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu&gt;
????:2020-11-16 23:48:37 (???)
???: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
??:
??: Re: [Freesurfer] Extract he value of area and volume in the fsaverage for 
every subject {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed}

The lh_areapial.avgwf.dat has a value for each subject. That value will be 
whatever the y.mgh is. If you want a different value, then create a new y.mgh 
file. Also, I forgot to tell you to include --sumwf so that the avgwf file has 
the sum and not the average.


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&nbsp; I am sorry for that my presentation was not that good, the 
lh_areapial.sum and 


lh_areapial.avgwf.dat file are uploaded, I get only one area value in the 
lh_areapial.sum file 


with the following command.


mri_segstats 
--i qdec/Areapial_15_L/y.mgh 
--slabel fsaverage lh lh.areapial.label 
--avgwf lh_areapial.avgwf.dat 
--accumulate 
--sum lh_areapial.sum 
--exclude 0


My question was that how can I get the value of the area and volume in the 
standard space for every TBI and health control subjects. 






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???:"Douglas N. Greve" <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu&gt;
????:2020-11-13 23:03:50 (???)
???: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
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every subject {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed}

sorry, I don't know what you are asking


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Thanks! I get only one area value in the lh_areapial.sum file with this command:


mri_segstats 
--i qdec/Areapial_15_L/y.mgh 
--slabel fsaverage lh lh.areapial.label 
--avgwf lh_areapial.avgwf.dat 
--accumulate 
--sum lh_areapial.sum 
--exclude 0


(1)Should I extract the area and volume one by one with the following command 
for each subject:


mri_segstats 
--i qdec/Areapial_15_L/y.mgh 
--slabel fsaverage lh subjid/label/lh.areapial.label(this label file was mapped 
to every subject from the fsaverage) 
--avgwf lh_areapial.avgwf.dat 
--accumulate 
--sum lh_areapial.sum 
--exclude 0


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???:"Douglas N. Greve" <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu&gt;
????:2020-11-12 22:23:13 (???)
???: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
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every subject {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed}

No, the area will be under the "Mean" column. Sorry, I know it is confusing. 
Also, you will just want to use the 2nd row. You can eliminate the first row 
with --exclude 0



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Thank you very much, I get lh_areapial.avgwf.dat and lh_areapial.sum file after 
the mri_segstats command



(1) Does the lh_areapial.avgwf.dat contain areas value for all my subject?


(2) When I extract the volumes, the lh_volume.sum displays the unit for the 
volume is Area_mm2?Blue color). Is this correct?




ColHeaders&nbsp; Index SegId NVertices Area_mm2&nbsp; StructName&nbsp; 
Mean&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
StdDev&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Min&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Max&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Range&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
1&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 161058&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
81037.1&nbsp;&nbsp; Seg0000&nbsp;&nbsp; 242940.3281&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
0.7312&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.0000&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
3.8885&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3.8885 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
2&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2784&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
1182.3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Seg0001&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
3760.6619&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.2525&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
0.7136&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.8140&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.1005 


Following is the code for extracting volumes
mri_segstats 
--i qdec/Volume_15_L/y.mgh (y.mgh was created after Qdec)
--slabel fsaverage lh lh.volume.label (This was the label extracted from the 
fsaverage after multi-correction)
--avgwf lh_volume.avgwf.dat (output file)
--accumulate 
--sum lh_volume.sum (output file)






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???:"Douglas N. Greve" <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu&gt;
????:2020-11-11 23:58:20 (???)
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??: Re: [Freesurfer] Extract he value of area and volume in the fsaverage for 
every subject {Disarmed} {Disarmed} {Disarmed}

Sorry, try this


mri_segstats 
--i qdec/Areapial_15_L/y.mgh (y.mgh was created after Qdec)
--slabel fsaverage lh lh.areapial.label (This was the label extracted from the 
fsaverage after multi-correction)
--avgwf lh_areapial.avgwf.dat (output file)
--accumulate 
--sum lh_areapial.sum (output file)
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I tried following codes according to the suggestions, the terminal reported an 
error: cannot do frame average without input volume

mri_segstats 
--seg qdec/Areapial_15_L/y.mgh (y.mgh was created after Qdec)
--slabel fsaverage lh lh.areapial.label (This was the label extracted from the 
fsaverage after multi-correction)
--avgwf lh_areapial.avgwf.dat (output file)
--accumulate 
--sum lh_areapial.sum (output file)






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????:2020-11-05 22:37:07 (???)
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??:
??: Re: [Freesurfer] Extract he value of area and volume in the fsaverage for 
every subject {Disarmed} {Disarmed}

Try
--slabel fsaverage lh /path/to/lh.areapial.label


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Thank you very much! I tried to extract the areas with the following codes:
mri_segstats 
--seg qdec/Areapial_15_L/y.mgh (y.mgh was created after Qdec)
--slabel lh.areapial.label (This was the label extracted from the fsaverage 
after multi-correction)
--avgwf lh_areapial.avgwf.dat (output file)
--accumulate 
--sum lh_areapial.sum (output file)
I did not get a text file including the areas of all subjects. Is this code 
correct? 

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????:2020-11-02 23:36:14 (???)
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??: Re: [Freesurfer] Extract he value of area and volume in the fsaverage for 
every subject {Disarmed}

I think the reason for this may be that the data in fsaverage space (after 
mris_preproc) will have had a jacobian correction which will not be in data on 
the native surface. For this reason, I would not use #1. #2 is fine.You can 
apply your label in fsaverage space to the y.mgh used as input to mri_segstats 
specifying the label using --slabel and using --avgwf output and also use 
--accumulate; run it with --help for more info. This will create a text file of 
the areas or volumes (depending upon which y.mgh you input) all your subjects 
for that label.



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Dear Professors:&nbsp; 
&nbsp; 
&nbsp; I compared the thickness, area, volume in the mild traumatic brain 
injury patients with health control by FreeSurFer, and found statistic 
difference region in the cortex area, volume respectively. I defined the 
statistic difference regions as a label on the fsaverage and mapped this label 
to subjects by Qdec/mri_label2label. The label defined on the fsaverage was 
mapped onto all subjects successfully, and the label in subjects matched well 
with the inflated cortex of subjects in Freeview&nbsp; Then the value of the 
label in every single subjects was extracted, and I found that there is no 
statistic difference in the value regarding to the area and volume between the 
mild traumatic brain injury patients and health control subjects. Following are 
my questions:


(1)Can I carry out correlation analysis between the cortex area and volume with 
the behavior scores through these non-statistical extracted values?
&nbsp;
(2)Can I extract the value of cortex area and volume in the standard space for 
every TBI and health control subjects, and carry out correlation analysis 
between the cortex area and volume with the behavior scores. How can I extract 
the value of cortex area and volume in the standard space for every TBI and 
health control subjects


Best wishes
Mengjun Li


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???:"Douglas N. Greve" <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu&gt;
????:2020-10-30 23:40:30 (???)
???: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
??:
??: Re: [Freesurfer] Extract he value of area and volume in the fsaverage for 
every subject

Do you mean you compared your TBI subjects against fsaverage? That is not 
proper methodology.


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Dear FreeSurfer Developers:


&nbsp;&nbsp; I compared the cortical thickness, area, volume in the mild 
traumatic brain injury patients with health control by FreeSurFer, and found a 
statistic difference region in the cortex area and volume after correction. How 
can I extract the value of cortex area and volume for every subject in the 
fsaverage with the code of mri_segstats


FreeSurfer version: freesurfer-Darwin-OSX-stable-pub-v6.0.0-2beb96c
Platform: macOS High Sierra.


Best wishes
Mengjun Li
Second Xiangya Hospital
Central South University


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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 09:24:44 +0800
From: " LIN, Yezhe " <yezhe....@foxmail.com&gt;
Subject: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer skullstripping error
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Dear Freesurfer users,



Hope this finds you well. 


I preprocessed our dataset with recon-all <subj&amp;gt; -s <subj&amp;gt; -all 
-qcache and found a number of our subjects had different levels of skullstrip 
errors. I tried fixing them by a couple of different approaches, such as -gcut 
and adjusted watershed threshold, but they both failed to fix the overlapping 
of dura mater (Fig1 and 2). I tried two methods on different subjects and 
received the same outcome. I wonder if you have any ideas to fix this error. At 
this point, for some who had less skullstripping, I can erase them manually and 
run -autorecon-pial or -make. But for the others with multiple locations of 
skullstripping (like Fig 3 and 4), do you have any ideas on how to approach to 
them at a systemic level? Also I found the skullstripping error in over half of 
our subjects, is it normal that we have a such proportion? ?





Thank you so much!?



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Best regards,

Yezhe

Yezhe Lin, MD MMed&amp;nbsp; (she/her/hers)

Postdoctoral Associate, Department of Psychiatry

University of Rochester Medical Center

yezhe.lin....@gmail.com

Twitter: @LinYezhe | LinkedIn&amp;nbsp;| Researchgate




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