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Dear Douglas,

Thank you very much for your rapid response. I have another question.

I am following the FS Repeated Measures tutorial and therefore, I ran
this: mris_preproc --target fsaverage --hemi lh --meas thickness --out
lh.thickness.mgh --fsgd rmanova.fsgd.
However, in the  FS Group Analysis tutorial, it says that you must include
"--cache-in thickness.fwhm10.fsaverage" if the data was preprocessed with
recon-all with the -qcache option, which was my case. As I am doing
longitudinal analyses, do I have to skip this  option and just follow the
Repeated Measures tutorial or do I have to include the --cache option?

Thank you very much.
Best regards,

Agurne





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El jue., 5 nov. 2020 a las 15:58, Douglas N. Greve (<dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>)
escribió:

> In this case, the paired-t is identical to RM 2x2 ANOVA. But to answer
> your question, the first example you give is the right way to handle it.
>
>
> On 11/5/2020 4:32 AM, Agurne Sampedro Calvete wrote:
>
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> Dear Freesurfer experts,
>
> I am trying to do a longitudinal repeated measures ANOVA 2x2, with two
> groups (experimental vs control) and two time points (pre and post
> treatment).
>
> Although I have run a paired t-test, now I would like to do a repeated
> measures anova 2x2, since I am doing the same analyses with other data in
> other softwares.
>
> I am trying to follow the tutorial *MailScanner has detected a possible
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> but I have several doubts when designing the FSGD file as well as the
> contrasts.
>
> How should it be the FSGD file?
>
> I have seen in a previous post the following design for the same number fo
> groups and time points:
>
> GroupDescriptorFile 1
>
> Class Subject1
>
> Class Subject2
>
> Variables                                             Tp1vsTp2.GrExp
>    Tp1vsTp2.GrControl
>
> Input   Subject1_time1  Subject1         1
> 0
>
> Input   Subject1_time2  Subject1        -1                                0
>
> Input   Subject2_time1  Subject2         0
> 1
>
> Input   Subject2_time2  Subject02       0
> -1
>
>
>
> Design matrix:
>
> 1 0 1 0
>
> 1 0 -1 0
>
> 0 1 0 1
>
> 0 1 0 -1
>
> Contrasts (.mtx files):
> Tp1vsTp2.GrExp        0 0 1 0
> Tp1vsTp2.GrControl  0 0 0 -1
> Interaction                  0 0 1 -1
>
> Would this design be the correct one to use in this case?
>
> Alternatively, could it be this the correct one?
>
> GroupDescriptorFile 1
>
> Class Subject1
>
> Class Subject2
>
> Variables                                             Tp1vsTp2
>          Groupxtime
>
> Input   Subject1_time1  Subject1         1                                1
>
> Input   Subject1_time2  Subject1        -1
> *-1*
>
> Input   Subject2_time1  Subject2         1
> *-1*
>
> Input   Subject2_time2  Subject02       -1                              1
>
> Design matrix:
>
> 1 0  1 1
>
> 1 0 -1 -1
>
> 0 1  1 -1
>
> 0 1  -1 1
>
>
>
> Contrasts (.mtx files):
>
> Tp1vsTp2                        0 0 1 0
>
> Groupxtime Interaction   0 0 0 1
>
> Thank you very much in advance.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Agurne
>
>
>
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>
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> Faculty of Psychology and Education
>
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