I have not studied the issue, but I think that BrainVolNotVent is probably a good way to go.

On 8/24/2020 1:00 PM, Harkey, Thomas Jarrott wrote:

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Ok thank you!

If we conducted a study measuring brain to intracranial volume ratio, do you think that BrainVolNotVent and Etiv-only ratio would provide accurate measures? Is there another more robust way to make this calculation using FreeSurfer?

We are studying brain atrophy in MCA stroke patients. I have seen studies indicating there is some bias regarding etiv but that the correlation with manual segmentations is roughly R =.8.

Is the BrainVolNotVent to Etiv-only ratio a valid estimation of atrophy or are there statistical normalizations or corrections that complicate that procedure?

Thank you so much for your time.

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No, you need a segmentation

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    Will this work on the brainmask.auto.mgz if I use the
    --brain-vol-from-seg command?

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    Actually, that file won't be there either because it does not get
    created until all processing is done (not just autorecon1). You
    can run mri_segststats like
    mri_segstats --seg subject/mri/aseg.presurf.mgz --ctab-default
    --sum subject/stats/aseg.presurf.stats
    Then add up all the segmentations you want to get BrainSegNotVent



    On 8/23/2020 11:42 AM, Douglas N. Greve wrote:

        Are you using v7? If so, look in subject/stats/brainvol.stats

        On 8/22/2020 5:39 PM, Harkey, Thomas Jarrott wrote:

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            Hello,
            I am a student learning free surfer. I was able to obtain
            intracranial volume by running

            recon-all   –i  file.dcm   –subject  bert –autorecon1

            and then

            mri_segstats --subject bert --etiv-only

            How can I obtain the BrainSegNotVent volume? I have tried

            mri_segstats --subject bert --brain-vol-from-seg

            however, “ERROR: must specify a segmentation volume”

            Can this be calculated using the data from autorecon1, or
            do I need to run -all? Which segmentation do I need to
            specify?

            My contact information is below,

            Thank you!

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