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Thanks Douglas.  I could send other problem data sets too if it would help.  
Just let me know.

Thanks,
Laura


From: "Douglas N. Greve" <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
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Date: Friday, June 19, 2020 at 6:10 PM
To: "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu" <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Longitudinal Stream Problem

OK, I have it now and am able to verify the problem. It's really strange -- I 
don't know why it is behaving like this. It may take me a few days to dig into.
On 6/18/2020 11:39 AM, Danielian, Laura (NIH/NINDS) [E] wrote:

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Sorry I’m not sure why it didn’t upload.  I just tried it again.  
danielianall.tar.gz  - Should include all parts.  EM2 is the cross-sectional.  
EM is the base.  EM2.long.EM is the long.  I also tried sending just the base 
again.  danielianbase.tar.gz.

Thanks,

Laura

From: "Douglas N. Greve" <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
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Date: Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 9:12 AM
To: "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu"<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> 
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Longitudinal Stream Problem

I have not seen that file appear. Can you re-upload it?
On 6/16/2020 10:19 AM, Danielian, Laura (NIH/NINDS) [E] wrote:

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Hi Douglas,

OK I just uploaded the base separately.  danielianbase.tar.gz  I thought it was 
part of the original bundle.  Sorry!

Laura


From: "Douglas N. Greve" <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
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Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 10:10 AM
To: "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu"<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> 
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Longitudinal Stream Problem

I have your data, but it does not have the base image. Can you upload that as 
well?
On 6/15/2020 5:15 PM, Danielian, Laura (NIH/NINDS) [E] wrote:

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Hi Douglas,

I just upload the files as danielian.tar.gz.  I didn’t notice any damage or 
artifact on this particular brain or the others that had this same problem.  
This subject is a healthy control and most of the subjects (3 of 4) that are 
having this problem are healthy.  For each we used 2 T1s for the original 
cross-sectional input.  The cross was reconstructed fine as was the base and 
the 2 other longitudinal timepoints for this same subject.  The same is the 
case with the others I’m having trouble with – all of the their other 
timepoints are fine for the cross/base/longitudinal surfaces.  The warped 
surfaces are always lower posterior (cerebellum adjacent) and sometimes also 
temporal.  Upper cortical and frontal regions are unaffected.

Thanks for your help!

Laura



From: "Douglas N. Greve" <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
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Date: Friday, June 12, 2020 at 10:35 AM
To: "freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu"<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> 
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Longitudinal Stream Problem

Hard to tell from just that view. Was there a lot of brain change with that 
time point? Or was there an MRI artifact? If no to both, then you can upload 
all the cross, the base, and that one long. Follow instructions below (you can 
make one tarball for all subjects)

From the linux command line,
Create the file you want to upload, eg,
cd $SUBJECTS_DIR
tar cvfz subjects.tar.gz ./subject1 ./subject2
Now log  into our anonymous FTP site:
ftp surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
It will ask you for a user name: use "anonymous" (no quotes)
It will ask you for a password: use "anonymous" (no quotes)
cd transfer/incoming
binary
put subjects.tar.gz
Send an email that the file has been and the name of the file.







On 6/9/2020 6:32 PM, Danielian, Laura (NIH/NINDS) [E] wrote:

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Hi, I’ve finished processing a data set that included longitudinal data and I’m 
having a problem with a small percentage of the longitudinal timepoints.  To 
review what I’ve done, I edited all of the individual (cross-sectional) 
timepoints until the wm and pial surfaces were correct, then created the base 
and edited that until it looked good, and then created the longitudinal files 
for each cross-sectional timepoint.  Most of these did not need editing and 
some needed slight edits to either wm or brainmask which corrected the 
longitudinal surfaces.

However, in a small handful of cases, the wm/pial surfaces were so distorted 
that editing would not fix the problem.  In these cases, longitudinal surfaces 
were very different from both the original cross-section and base.  I’ve tried 
to attach a file that shows an example – it might only affect a small portion 
of the brain but in these cases I don’t think I could edit it to improve the 
surfaces.  In the example I attached, red/blue are from the long file and 
pink/lt blue are from the base.

Do you have any suggestions for why this might be happening and how to fix it?  
I’m running v6.0.

Thanks!
Laura Danielian






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