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Good thing it's not the software :) Also makes it easier for me to fix. In
my script there was one tiny mistake - the anatomical image for one subject
was repeated each time instead of using the files for different subjects. I
ran recon-all 100+ times on the same subject!! Checking the registration
was definitely worthwhile. Thanks again for the help, it made me look at
the problem in a different.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 6:34 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <
dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:

> Yes, that file is the only thing linking the functional to the anatomical.
> It's too bad you messed up the files, but I'm relieved it was not my
> software:).
>
> On 1/25/19 5:09 AM, Keri Woods wrote:
>
>         External Email - Use Caution
> Hi Douglas
>
> Thanks very much for getting back to me. I created new separate
> directories and re-processed one of the problem subjects individually, and
> the registration worked well. So the problem is that the anatomical and
> functional images come from different subjects. But I've checked and the
> subjectname files are correct. That's the only thing linking the anatomical
> and functional images? Thanks very much, you've helped me a lot. Now I just
> have to go and see where I mixed up the files!
>
> Thanks again,
> Keri
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 10:32 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <
> dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> Can you tar up the anatomical and functional analyses and send them to
>> me through our filedrop?
>>
>> https://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/filedrop2/
>>
>> when it asks for an email of the recipient, use gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>
>>
>> On 1/23/19 5:57 AM, Keri Woods wrote:
>> >
>> >         External Email - Use Caution
>> >
>> > I meant some are nearly perfect.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 11:49 AM Keri Woods <keri.wo...@gmail.com
>> > <mailto:keri.wo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Hi Douglas
>> >
>> >     Thanks for the response.
>> >
>> >     No, some of the registrations are fine. Some are close, but not
>> >     perfect, while others are very bad.
>> >
>> >     I've checked the subjectname file for some subjects with poor
>> >     registration (eg 20_101), and they are correct.
>> >
>> >     Thanks,
>> >     Keri
>> >
>> >     On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 8:57 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.
>> >     <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         Are you saying that all of them have bad registrations? Some
>> >         of them
>> >         (eg, 20_1, 20_10) look like they should be good. Others (eg,
>> >         20_101)
>> >         look like they could be bad. For the bad ones, are you totally
>> >         sure that
>> >         the subjetname file has the correct name of the subject?
>> >
>> >         On 1/21/19 3:19 AM, Keri Woods wrote:
>> >         >
>> >         >         External Email - Use Caution
>> >         >
>> >         > Hi Douglas
>> >         >
>> >         > Thank you for your reply.
>> >         >
>> >         > I'm using
>> >         freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-pub-v6.0.1-f53a55a
>> >         >
>> >         > I am using whole brain data. The functional and structural
>> >         images were
>> >         > acquired in different sessions on the same day, I don't know
>> >         if that
>> >         > complicated things? Each subject has 2 runs of the same task.
>> >         >
>> >         > This is what I get after running the command in the format of
>> >         > tkregister-sess -s sess01 -s sess02 -s sess03 -fsd bold
>> >         -per-run -bbr-sum
>> >         >
>> >         > 20_1       013 0.5155
>> >         > 20_1       014 0.5090
>> >         > 20_10      013 0.5247
>> >         > 20_10      014 0.5229
>> >         > 20_100     038 0.8420
>> >         > 20_100     040 0.8443
>> >         > 20_101     008 0.9052
>> >         > 20_101     010 0.9289
>> >         > 20_102     058 0.6924
>> >         > 20_102     059 0.6902
>> >         > 20_103     045 0.9778
>> >         > 20_103     046 0.9931
>> >         > 20_104     010 0.9324
>> >         > 20_104     012 0.9413
>> >         > 20_105     013 0.8754
>> >         > 20_105     014 0.8937
>> >         > 20_106     047 0.4433
>> >         > 20_106     048 0.4377
>> >         > 20_107     008 0.9178
>> >         > 20_107     010 0.9238
>> >         > 20_11      013 0.7631
>> >         > 20_11      014 0.7615
>> >         > 20_110     048 0.7687
>> >         > 20_110     049 0.7549
>> >         > 20_112     013 0.8821
>> >         > 20_112     014 0.9161
>> >         > 20_113     052 0.7689
>> >         > 20_113     053 0.7757
>> >         > 20_116     046 1.0072
>> >         > 20_116     047 1.0256
>> >         > 20_117     008 0.7742
>> >         > 20_117     010 0.7826
>> >         > 20_119     013 0.7929
>> >         > 20_119     014 0.7854
>> >         > 20_120     048 0.5090
>> >         > 20_120     049 0.4973
>> >         > 20_126     047 0.8285
>> >         > 20_126     048 0.8281
>> >         > 20_128     046 0.9580
>> >         > 20_128     047 0.9314
>> >         > 20_130     047 0.9439
>> >         > 20_130     048 0.9425
>> >         > 20_132     047 0.8550
>> >         > 20_132     048 0.8558
>> >         > 20_134_1   013 0.5716
>> >         > 20_134_1   015 0.5744
>> >         > 20_135     011 0.8357
>> >         > 20_135     012 0.8401
>> >         > 20_136     044 0.9995
>> >         > 20_136     045 0.9604
>> >         > 20_137     047 0.7922
>> >         > 20_137     048 0.7990
>> >         > 20_142     047 0.5282
>> >         > 20_142     048 0.5278
>> >         > 20_144     013 0.8755
>> >         > 20_144     014 0.8838
>> >         > 20_146     047 0.7997
>> >         > 20_146     048 0.7895
>> >         > 20_149     049 0.9251
>> >         > 20_149     050 0.9408
>> >         > 20_151     048 0.5905
>> >         > 20_151     049 0.5519
>> >         > 20_152     048 0.9024
>> >         > 20_152     049 0.9021
>> >         > 20_155     048 0.5285
>> >         > 20_155     049 0.5324
>> >         > 20_156     048 0.8883
>> >         > 20_156     049 0.9267
>> >         > 20_158     048 0.5404
>> >         > 20_158     049 0.5297
>> >         > 20_159     048 0.8021
>> >         > 20_160     013 0.5002
>> >         > 20_160     014 0.4942
>> >         > 20_162     047 0.5401
>> >         > 20_162     048 0.5401
>> >         > 20_164     047 0.8944
>> >         > 20_164     048 0.8940
>> >         > 20_165     047 0.9163
>> >         > 20_165     048 0.9077
>> >         > 20_166     045 0.8787
>> >         > 20_166     046 0.8848
>> >         > 20_167     050 0.8428
>> >         > 20_167     051 0.8442
>> >         > 20_169     049 0.9407
>> >         > 20_169     050 0.9462
>> >         > 20_170     047 0.8921
>> >         > 20_170     048 0.9113
>> >         > 20_171     013 0.9060
>> >         > 20_171     014 0.9060
>> >         > 20_173     048 0.9193
>> >         > 20_173     049 0.9141
>> >         > 20_177     048 0.8695
>> >         > 20_177     049 0.8600
>> >         > 20_178     048 1.0327
>> >         > 20_178     049 0.8979
>> >         > 20_180     045 0.7999
>> >         > 20_180     046 0.8002
>> >         > 20_182     047 0.9135
>> >         > 20_182     048 0.9130
>> >         > 20_184     048 0.9842
>> >         > 20_184     049 0.9960
>> >         > 20_185     046 0.9640
>> >         > 20_185     047 0.9514
>> >         > 20_187     048 0.8134
>> >         > 20_187     049 0.8082
>> >         > 20_189     047 1.0063
>> >         > 20_189     048 0.9701
>> >         > 20_19      013 0.8485
>> >         > 20_19      014 0.8534
>> >         > 20_190     047 0.9279
>> >         > 20_190     048 0.9169
>> >         > 20_191     046 0.9586
>> >         > 20_191     047 0.9751
>> >         > 20_192     049 0.8544
>> >         > 20_193     013 0.9084
>> >         > 20_193     014 0.9110
>> >         > 20_194     047 0.9220
>> >         > 20_194     048 0.9166
>> >         > 20_195     048 0.9552
>> >         > 20_195     049 0.9508
>> >         > 20_196     047 0.9098
>> >         > 20_196     048 0.9011
>> >         > 20_199     048 0.8569
>> >         > 20_199     049 0.8567
>> >         > 20_20      013 0.8750
>> >         > 20_20      014 0.8749
>> >         > 20_201     048 0.8864
>> >         > 20_201     049 1.0040
>> >         > 20_202     048 0.8542
>> >         > 20_202     049 0.8516
>> >         > 20_203     048 1.0267
>> >         > 20_203     049 1.0060
>> >         > 20_204     048 0.8513
>> >         > 20_204     049 0.8588
>> >         > 20_208     014 0.9130
>> >         > 20_208     015 0.9329
>> >         > 20_209     047 1.0020
>> >         > 20_209     048 1.0120
>> >         > 20_21      027 0.9747
>> >         > 20_21      028 1.0081
>> >         > 20_210     048 0.8607
>> >         > 20_210     049 0.8564
>> >         > 20_220     047 0.8888
>> >         > 20_220     048 0.8903
>> >         > 20_222     047 0.9998
>> >         > 20_222     048 0.8597
>> >         > 20_224     013 0.8122
>> >         > 20_224     014 0.8107
>> >         > 20_226     013 0.7855
>> >         > 20_226     014 0.7845
>> >         > 20_227     013 0.9372
>> >         > 20_227     014 0.9818
>> >         > 20_231     047 0.8355
>> >         > 20_231     048 0.8506
>> >         > 20_232     048 0.9730
>> >         > 20_232     049 0.9591
>> >         > 20_234     048 0.9357
>> >         > 20_234     049 0.9429
>> >         > 20_235     048 0.7528
>> >         > 20_235     049 0.7483
>> >         > 20_236     047 0.8997
>> >         > 20_236     048 0.8922
>> >         > 20_239     049 0.8920
>> >         > 20_239     050 0.8817
>> >         > 20_24      013 0.8197
>> >         > 20_24      014 0.8280
>> >         > 20_240     047 0.9109
>> >         > 20_240     048 0.9231
>> >         > 20_243     013 0.8227
>> >         > 20_243     014 0.8333
>> >         > 20_245     045 0.8620
>> >         > 20_245     046 0.8635
>> >         > 20_246     047 0.8236
>> >         > 20_246     048 0.8269
>> >         > 20_248     053 0.6015
>> >         > 20_248     054 0.6091
>> >         > 20_25      013 0.8676
>> >         > 20_25      014 0.8658
>> >         > 20_250     048 0.9124
>> >         > 20_250     050 0.9090
>> >         > 20_251     048 0.9061
>> >         > 20_251     049 0.9078
>> >         > 20_277     008 0.7923
>> >         > 20_277     010 0.7970
>> >         > 20_278     048 0.4834
>> >         > 20_278     049 0.4845
>> >         > 20_279     008 0.4363
>> >         > 20_279     010 0.4370
>> >         > 20_281     013 0.8672
>> >         > 20_281     014 0.8647
>> >         > 20_282     043 0.8884
>> >         > 20_282     044 0.8886
>> >         > 20_284     052 0.9152
>> >         > 20_284     053 0.9118
>> >         > 20_285     047 0.9546
>> >         > 20_285     048 0.9517
>> >         > 20_286     008 0.9607
>> >         > 20_286     010 0.9596
>> >         > 20_287     055 0.8976
>> >         > 20_287     056 0.8756
>> >         > 20_288     047 1.0127
>> >         > 20_288     048 1.0307
>> >         > 20_290     048 1.0089
>> >         > 20_290     049 1.0391
>> >         > 20_293     052 0.7792
>> >         > 20_293     053 0.7772
>> >         > 20_3       017 0.8530
>> >         > 20_3       018 0.8501
>> >         > 20_40      013 0.9392
>> >         > 20_40      014 0.9787
>> >         > 20_41      013 0.9562
>> >         > 20_41      014 0.9547
>> >         > 20_44      013 0.8725
>> >         > 20_44      014 0.8872
>> >         > 20_51      013 0.9420
>> >         > 20_51      014 0.9417
>> >         > 20_55      013 0.9796
>> >         > 20_55      014 0.9837
>> >         > 20_58      013 0.9677
>> >         > 20_58      014 0.9506
>> >         > 20_59      013 0.9180
>> >         > 20_59      014 0.9157
>> >         > 20_69      013 0.9265
>> >         > 20_69      014 0.9283
>> >         > 20_74      014 0.9476
>> >         > 20_74      015 0.9201
>> >         > 20_78      012 0.9822
>> >         > 20_78      013 0.9501
>> >         > 20_81      013 0.8664
>> >         > 20_81      014 0.8693
>> >         > 20_84      013 0.8827
>> >         > 20_84      014 0.9196
>> >         > 20_86      016 0.9138
>> >         > 20_86      017 0.9152
>> >         > 20_88      039 0.9905
>> >         > 20_88      041 1.0168
>> >         > 20_90      049 0.8263
>> >         > 20_90      050 1.0208
>> >         > 20_95      008 0.8892
>> >         > 20_95      010 0.9359
>> >         > 20_96      013 0.9191
>> >         > 20_96      014 0.9326
>> >         > 20_97      008 0.9569
>> >         > 20_97      010 0.9731
>> >         > 20_98      008 0.9317
>> >         > 20_98      012 0.9409
>> >         > 20_PHRU    047 0.7797
>> >         > 20_PHRU    048 0.7894
>> >         >
>> >         > So the registration is really poor. I've visually checked the
>> >         > registration for many of the subjects, and the functional
>> >         data isn't
>> >         > left-right reversed, I've also checked some of the
>> >         subjectname files
>> >         > (which I created by running a script) and they are correct.
>> >         >
>> >         > I'm new to Freesurfer, so maybe I've made a mistake
>> >         somewhere? I'm
>> >         > been following these instructions:
>> >         >
>> >         > https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsFastTutorial
>> >         >
>> >         > Thanks,
>> >         > Keri
>> >         >
>> >         >
>> >         > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 6:44 PM Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D.
>> >         > <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
>> >         <mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu
>> >         <mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>>> wrote:
>> >         >
>> >         >     What version of FS are you using? version 6 initializes
>> with
>> >         >     mri_coreg (the FS equivalent of spm_coreg). On
>> >         whole-brain data,
>> >         >     I've found this to be very robust. Is your data
>> whole-brain?
>> >         >
>> >         >     On 1/18/19 5:10 AM, Keri Woods wrote:
>> >         >>
>> >         >>             External Email - Use Caution
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>> >         >>     Hi
>> >         >>
>> >         >>     I have a problem very similar to this one:
>> >         >>
>> >         >>
>> >
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg23206.html
>> >         >>
>> >         >>     I've tried the suggestions given there, but it didn't
>> >         fix my problem.
>> >         >>
>> >         >>     I'm running the FSFAST preproc-sess stream and the
>> >         quality of the
>> >         >>     registration is very poor for most of the subjects.
>> >         >>
>> >         >>     I've tried initializing the registration differently,
>> using
>> >         >>     bbregister with --init-fsl, --init-spm and init-header,
>> >         which
>> >         >>     didn't improve the results at all.
>> >         >>
>> >         >>     I've also tried register-sess with --init-fsl,
>> >         --init-spm and
>> >         >>     init-header, as well as spmregister-sess and
>> >         fslregister-sess.
>> >         >>
>> >         >>     Is there anything else I could try?
>> >         >>
>> >         >>     Using the SPM GUI, the registration was fine, so I
>> >         thought that
>> >         >>     spmregister-sess would have been an improvement, but it
>> >         wasn't.
>> >         >>     Is there anyway I can import the registration obtained
>> >         using the
>> >         >>     SPM GUI?
>> >         >>
>> >         >>     Thanks for your help.
>> >         >>
>> >         >>     Thanks,
>> >         >>     Keri
>> >         >>
>> >         >>
>> >         >>
>> >         >>
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