Hi Douglas,

thank you for the explanation of the contrasts, this helped a lot!


All the best,

Kai

2018-03-12 18:20 GMT+01:00 Douglas N. Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>:

> Yes, let's say you have 4 groups (eg, gender and sequence) and one
> covariate (BDI score). If you use a DODS model, then you will have 8
> regressors (4 intercepts and 4 slopes). To test for an effect of covariate
> regressing out the group, then you would have
>
> [0 0  0 0 .25 .25 .25 .25]
>
> The +0.25 computes the mean slope across all groups (note you could also
> just use all 1s, you will get the same p-value).
>
>
>
> On 03/09/2018 01:43 PM, k.ohmst...@stud.uni-heidelberg.de wrote:
>
>> Hi Douglas,
>>
>> thanks for the advice.
>>
>> I have one more question: I want to find correlations of the lGI and the
>> respective psychometric measurement, regressing out the effect of gender,
>> sequence and the other covariates.
>> I just had a look at the examples of FSGDs containing two factors with
>> two levels each and as far as I understand it, it is only possible to
>> compare two of the groups or to find an interaction between groups and
>> covariates.
>>
>> Is it at all possible to find out how the lGI is correlated to one of my
>> covariates, i.e. higher values of Beck's Depression Inventory correlate
>> with higher/lower values of the lGI, when regressing out the other factors?
>> If yes, how do I build the contrast file to do so correctly? I am stuck
>> here.
>>
>> Thank you for the time and effort!
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Kai
>>
>> Zitat von Douglas Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>:
>>
>> Hi Kai, please remember to post to the list. Your FSGD file is not
>>> quite right. Gender is a discrete variable and should be represented by
>>> two groups not as a covariate. If Sequence is discrete, then you need
>>> four groups (Gender by Sequence).
>>>
>>> doug
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/9/18 3:20 AM, k.ohmst...@stud.uni-heidelberg.de wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Douglas,
>>>>
>>>> the fsgd file I used is attached. Thank you for your help!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Kai
>>>>
>>>> Zitat von "Douglas N. Greve" <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>:
>>>>
>>>> can you send your fsgd file so that I have a better idea of what you are
>>>>> mentioning?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/08/2018 08:39 AM, k.ohmst...@stud.uni-heidelberg.de wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am trying to correlate psychometric measurements and the local
>>>>>> Gyrification Index.
>>>>>> To do so, I use the FreeSurfer pipeline to calculate the lGI and then
>>>>>> PALM, following the advice in this thread
>>>>>> (https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail//freesurfer/2017
>>>>>> -March/050703.html). All my subjects are part of the same group, so
>>>>>> I used a FSGD with  the
>>>>>> group "main" to create the design matrix and mask for my data that are
>>>>>> required by PALM.
>>>>>> Having a closer look at the design matrix that was created, I found
>>>>>> that there was a variable for the group that was the same for all my
>>>>>> patients. As it is the same for all patients, I thought eliminating it
>>>>>> would not be a problem. But after re-running PALM without it, there
>>>>>> were huge differences in my results and effects were notably larger
>>>>>> and more significant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do any of you have any experience which option is best in this case?
>>>>>> Is it a valid choice to eliminate the variable for the group, as it is
>>>>>> the same for each patient anyway?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Furthermore, would you recommend centering for the design matrix? I
>>>>>> found that this can have an impact, but I am lost on in which cases it
>>>>>> should be done and in which it shouldn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your help!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kai Ohmstedt
>>>>>>
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