Dear Bruce Fischl

?h.white.H,  ?h.curv, and H Mean reflected the vector fields with 'sign(+
or -)', and MeanCurv reflected the integral of the 'absolute' value of mean
curvature.
Am I understanding this correctly?

Best Wishes,

Han


On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Han
>
> I'm not sure I understand you question. The sign of the curvature depends
> on the arbirary convention you choose for the normal vector field over the
> surface. We pick and outwards pointing normal, which means that gyral
> regions in general have negative curvature (since they lie 'below' the
> tangent plane in terms of their dot product with the normal) and sulcal
> ones are positive. AFAIK both the ?h.white.H and ?h.curv curvatures obey
> this convention, although the smoothing applied to the ?h.curv will mean
> that some places they will have different sign. If you plot them both you
> will see that they are pretty highly correlated though.
>
> Does that answer your question? If not, can you clarify?
>
> cheers
> Bruce
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2 Oct 2016, Hanbyul Cho wrote:
>
> Dear FreeSurfer Team,
>>
>> I apologize for the repetitive questions.
>>
>> I made 2 labels which included bilateral paracentral lobule and sulcus
>> regions.
>> Then I extract the values:
>>    - MeanCurv
>>      After mris_anatomical_stats processing, I extracted the MeanCurv by
>> the
>> command,
>>   'aparcstats2table --hemi ?h --parc <label> --meas meancurv --subjects
>> <subjects list> --tablefile <output.txt>'
>>
>>    - ?h.Curv
>>       After mris_anatomical_stats processing with the option '-t
>> lh.curv', I
>> extracted the curvature value by the command,
>>   'aparcstats2table --hemi ?h --parc <label> --meas thickness--subjects
>> <subjects list> --tablefile <output.txt>'
>>
>>   - H <mean> +- <std>,   H Mean Rectified Surface Integral
>>     The Mean curvature values were compute by the command,
>>     'mris_curvature_Stats -l <label> -g -n -m -f white -o <output.txt>
>> <subject> ?h'
>>
>> I analyzed the each value. The ?h.Curv mean (within the label) has
>> opposite
>> relationship with Z value compared to MeanCurv, while similar relationship
>> with Z value compared to H <mean>.
>>
>> I heard that the MeanCurv is the integral of the rectified mean curvature
>> of
>> white matter surface (1/r mm), and ?h.curv is the mean curvature of the
>> white matter surface with a Gaussian smoothing kernel applied.
>> It looks that the MeanCurv and H Mean Rectified Surface Integral has only
>> positive values, while the H <mean> and ?h.curv has positive or negative
>> value.
>>
>> I wonder whether MeanCurv and ?h.curv has the difference meaning or
>> difference formula.
>> And I would like to know the meaning of the ?h.curv negative value.
>> Is H <mean> ( by mris_curvature_Stats ) compute from ?h.curv ?
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Han.
>>
>>
>>
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