Thank you for your response.  Do I need to run the glm_fit-sim command to
make the csd file?  I feel this would be inappropriate for my data since I
already ran the LME model.
Second, is there an argument to make an output file that can be visualized
via freeview?  In other words, how can I view my cluster thresholded data?

Your help is greatly appreciated,

Jen



On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Douglas Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
wrote:

> There is a (very long) command line on that page. Mainly you need a csd
> file. To get that you need the FWHM of your analysis, the voxel-wise
> threshold, and the sign of the contrast (or abs). Then the relevant output
> will be the --sum. You can run it with --help to get more info.
>
>
> On 2/10/16 5:11 PM, Jennifer Legault wrote:
>
> Thank you very much for your help!  I still received a "cannot read file
> type" error when I only added the path to the output --o part, however when
> I also added the path to the input file, it worked!
>
> I do have one more question: Which argument can I add so that in my output
> file I see the clusterwise P value, like it is shown here
> <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysisClusterSummary>
> ?
>
> Best,
>
> Jen
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Douglas N Greve <
> gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> I meant for the output files, so the --o in particular
>>
>> On 02/10/2016 01:47 PM, Jennifer Legault wrote:
>> > Douglas,
>> >
>> > Thank you for your quick response.  When I add --sd [path_location], I
>> > get the following error:
>> > Loading source values
>> > mri_read(): couldn't determine type of file
>> [path_location]/rh_time_spval
>> > ERROR: could not read rh_time_spval as type
>> >
>> > Should I use another argument?
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Jen
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Douglas N Greve
>> > <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Try specifying the full path to the output
>> >
>> >     On 02/10/2016 12:59 PM, Jennifer Legault wrote:
>> >     > Dear experts,
>> >     >
>> >     > I am trying to use the cluster thresholding command for my
>> >     freesurfer
>> >     > LME outputs as referred to here
>> >     >
>> >     <https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/LinearMixedEffectsModels
>> >.
>> >     > Any feedback or comments would be greatly appreciated.
>> >     >
>> >     > I am aware that there have been permission denied errors when
>> using
>> >     > mri_surfcluster and that applying this patch
>> >     >
>> >     <
>> ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/5.3.0-patch/mni152reg
>> >
>> >     > should solve the problem (which I tried), however I am still
>> either
>> >     > receiving errors stating the permission is denied.
>> >     >
>> >     > This is the command I am trying to run:
>> >     >
>> >     >  mri_surfcluster --subject fsaverage --hemi rh --in
>> >     rh_time_spval.mgh
>> >     > --cwpvalthresh 0.05 --fdr .05 --sign pos --o rh_time_cluster
>> --sum
>> >     > rh_time_cluster_sum
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Here is the error log:
>> >     >
>> >     > mri_surfcluster --subject fsaverage --hemi rh --in
>> rh_time_spval.mgh
>> >     > --cwpvalthresh 0.05 --fdr .05 --sign pos --o rh_time_cluster
>> --sum
>> >     > rh_time_cluster_sum     thsign = pos, id = 1
>> >     > version $Id: mri_surfcluster.c,v 1.51.2.3 2012/05/31 22:10:05
>> >     greve Exp $
>> >     > hemi           = rh
>> >     > srcid          = rh_time_spval.mgh
>> >     > srcsubjid      = fsaverage
>> >     > srcsurf        = white
>> >     > srcframe       = 0
>> >     > thsign         = pos
>> >     > thmin          = -1
>> >     > thmax          = -1
>> >     > fdr            = 0.05
>> >     > minarea        = 0
>> >     > xfmfile        = talairach.xfm
>> >     > nth         = -1
>> >     > outid    = rh_time_cluster paint
>> >     > sumfile  = rh_time_cluster_sum
>> >     > subjectsdir    = /gpfs/home/jtl190/work/structurals
>> >     > FixMNI = 1
>> >     > ------------- XFM matrix (RAS2RAS) ---------------
>> >     >
>> >
>>  /gpfs/home/jtl190/work/structurals/fsaverage/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm
>> >     >  1.000   0.000   0.000   0.000;
>> >     >  0.000   1.000   0.000   0.000;
>> >     >  0.000   0.000   1.000   0.000;
>> >     >  0.000   0.000   0.000   1.000;
>> >     > ----------------------------------------------------
>> >     > Reading source surface
>> >     > /gpfs/home/jtl190/work/structurals/fsaverage/surf/rh.white
>> >     > Done reading source surface
>> >     > Computing metric properties
>> >     > Loading source values
>> >     > number of voxels in search space = 163842
>> >     > Done loading source values (nvtxs = 163842)
>> >     > overall max = 1 at vertex 27
>> >     > overall min = 1.52021e-05 at vertex 125620
>> >     > surface nvertices 163842
>> >     > surface area 65020.929688
>> >     > surface area 65020.765625
>> >     > Setting voxel-wise threshold with FDR = 0.050000
>> >     > Assuming input map is -log10(p)
>> >     > MRISfdr2vwth(): np = 163842, nv = 163842, fdr = 0.05, vwth=1.04576
>> >     > FDR Voxel-wise threshold is 1.04576
>> >     > Adjusting threshold for 1-tailed test.
>> >     > If the input is not a -log10(p) volume, re-run with --no-adjust.
>> >     > Searching for Clusters ...
>> >     > thmin=1.045757 (0.744727), thmax=-1.000000 (-1), thsignid=1,
>> >     > minarea=0.000000
>> >     > Found 9803 clusters
>> >     > Max cluster size 5993.586426
>> >     > INFO: fixing MNI talairach coordinates
>> >     > Saving thresholded output to  rh_time_cluster
>> >     > Can't create file
>> >     >
>> >
>>  /gpfs/home/jtl190/work/structurals/fsaverage/surf/rh.rh_time_cluster.w
>> >     >
>> >     > Permission denied
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     >
>> >     > Thank you for taking the time to read this email.
>> >     >
>> >     > Sincerely,
>> >     >
>> >     > Jennifer Legault
>> >     >
>> >     > --
>> >     > Jennifer Legault
>> >     > Ph.D candidate, Neuroscience
>> >     > Brain, Language, and Computation Lab
>> >     > The Pennsylvania State University
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