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On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Douglas N Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> wrote:

>
> In theory that works, but remember the FS total cranial volume is only
> an estimate based on the talairach transform. It is not counting voxels
> that are inside the skull.
>
> On 10/23/2014 12:30 PM, Mohammed Goryawala wrote:
> > Thanks Doug.
> >
> > I was looking at a paper "ARANGO, C., MCMAHON, R. P., LEFKOWITZ, D.
> > M., PEARLSON, G., KIRKPATRICK, B. & BUCHANAN, R. W. 2008. Patterns of
> > cranial, brain and sulcal CSF volumes in male and female deficit and
> > nondeficit patients with schizophrenia. Psychiatry Research:
> > Neuroimaging, 162, 91-100.", which estimates sulcal CSF volume as
> >
> >
> >         2.4.4. Sulcal CSF (sCSF)
> >
> > The sCSF was derived by subtracting T
> >
> > ​otal ​
> > B
> > ​ rain ​
> > V
> > ​ olume ​
> > and V
> > ​ entricular ​
> > V
> > ​ olume​
> > from T
> > ​ otal ​
> > C
> > ​ ranial ​
> > V
> > olume ​
> > .
> > ​Can such a strategy be explored using FreeSurfer​ output ?
> >
> > ​Thanks for your advice
> > Mohammed​
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Douglas N Greve
> > <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     No, not currently. This is quite a hard problem even if you have a
> T2.
> >     The pulse sequences are usually low enough bandwidth that fat from
> the
> >     scalp and skull marrow shift into the CSF spaces making it
> >     impossible to
> >     properly segment that area as CSF. If you wanted an approximate
> value,
> >     you could create a binary mask from the aparc+aseg.mgz, dilated it
> >     by 3
> >     or 4 voxels, then erode it by the same amount, then remove the
> >     original
> >     mask. The remaining voxels will be something like the sulcal CSF.
> >
> >     doug
> >
> >
> >     On 10/22/2014 04:50 PM, Mohammed Goryawala wrote:
> >     > Hello FreeSurfer Experts,
> >     >
> >     > Is it possible to estimate the sulcal CSF volume in Freesurfer
> >     > processing? If not directly are there any indirect means that
> >     can give
> >     > me an estimate?
> >     >
> >     > Thank you
> >     >
> >     > Mohammed Goryawala, PhD
> >     > Department of Radiology
> >     > Miller School of Medicine, University of Miami
> >     >
> >     >
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