Hi Martin, Thanks!
However, while running the long_MRIS_slopes command, I was met with following error: =============================================================================== SUBJECT template_D208AB Stacking Within-Subject Maps mri_concat JT_D208A_3D_A.long.template_D208AB/surf/lh.thickness JT_D208B_3D_B.long.template_D208AB/surf/lh.thickness --o /template_D208AB/surf/lh.long.thickness-stack.mgh ninputs = 2 Checking inputs ERROR: dimension mismatch between JT_D208A_3D_A.long.template_D208AB/surf/lh.thickness and JT_D208B_3D_B.long.template_D208AB/surf/lh.thickness ERROR 1 : mri_concat stacking did not work? I ran mri_inf, with the following output: Volume information for JT_D208A_3D_A.long.template_D208AB/surf/lh.thickness type: curv dimensions: 135222 x 1 x 1 voxel sizes: 1.0000, 1.0000, 1.0000 type: FLOAT (3) fov: 135222.000 dof: 0 xstart: -67611.0, xend: 67611.0 ystart: -0.5, yend: 0.5 zstart: -0.5, zend: 0.0 TR: 0.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle: 0.00 degrees nframes: 1 PhEncDir: UNKNOWN ras xform not present xform info: x_r = -1.0000, y_r = 0.0000, z_r = 0.0000, c_r = 0.0000 : x_a = 0.0000, y_a = 0.0000, z_a = 1.0000, c_a = 0.0000 : x_s = 0.0000, y_s = -1.0000, z_s = 0.0000, c_s = 0.0000 Orientation : ??? Primary Slice Direction: unknown voxel to ras transform: -1.0000 0.0000 0.0000 67611.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000 -0.5000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 0.5000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000 voxel-to-ras determinant -1 ras to voxel transform: -1.0000 0.0000 0.0000 67611.0000 -0.0000 -0.0000 -1.0000 0.5000 -0.0000 1.0000 -0.0000 0.5000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000 Volume information for JT_D208B_3D_B.long.template_D208AB/surf/lh.thickness type: curv dimensions: 135130 x 1 x 1 voxel sizes: 1.0000, 1.0000, 1.0000 type: FLOAT (3) fov: 135130.000 dof: 0 xstart: -67565.0, xend: 67565.0 ystart: -0.5, yend: 0.5 zstart: -0.5, zend: 0.0 TR: 0.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle: 0.00 degrees nframes: 1 PhEncDir: UNKNOWN ras xform not present xform info: x_r = -1.0000, y_r = 0.0000, z_r = 0.0000, c_r = 0.0000 : x_a = 0.0000, y_a = 0.0000, z_a = 1.0000, c_a = 0.0000 : x_s = 0.0000, y_s = -1.0000, z_s = 0.0000, c_s = 0.0000 Orientation : ??? Primary Slice Direction: unknown voxel to ras transform: -1.0000 0.0000 0.0000 67565.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000 -0.5000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 0.5000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000 voxel-to-ras determinant -1 ras to voxel transform: -1.0000 0.0000 0.0000 67565.0000 -0.0000 -0.0000 -1.0000 0.5000 -0.0000 1.0000 -0.0000 0.5000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000 It appears that the dimensions are the same in both images at baseline and followup. What could I be doing wrongly here? Many thanks! Best Regards, Elijah On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Martin Reuter <mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: > The one that comes with Freesurfer. It's always the same. > Best Martin > > > Sent via my smartphone, please excuse brevity. > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Elijah Mak > Date:06/04/2014 10:54 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: Martin Reuter > Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] v.5.3 Longitudinal Analysis on v.5.0 processed > scans > > Hi Martin, > > Many thanks for your help! > > How is fsaverage created? > > I ran all my recon-alls (cross, base, and longs) in a single > $Subject_DIR folder. Then , I moved the longs and bases to another > folder for organizational purposes, which explains why the fsaverage > is missing. > > Is the fsverage study-specific? Or can I point the path of the > fsverage to the same fsaverage that came with the original > installation of Freesurfer? > > Many thanks again. > > Best Regards, > Elijah > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Martin Reuter > <mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: > > Hi Elijah, > > > > Just create a link > > ln -s pathtofsaverage ./ > > > > Usually this is done during recon-all > > > > > > Sent via my smartphone, please excuse brevity. > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Elijah Mak > > Date:06/04/2014 7:17 AM (GMT-05:00) > > To: Martin Reuter ,freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] v.5.3 Longitudinal Analysis on v.5.0 processed > > scans > > > > Hi Martin, > > > > We corresponded about the longitudinal pipeline earlier. Your help has > > been much appreciated. I am now at the stage where I am ready to > > perform QDEC analyses using the 2-stage method. > > > > In my Subject DIR, I have all the longs (Tp1 and 2) and their > > corresponding bases. However, when i run the following command > > > > long_mris_slopes --qdec ./qdec/long.qdec.table.dat --meas thickness > > --hemi lh --do-avg --do-rate --do-pc1 --do-spc --do-stack --do-label > > --time years --qcache fsaverage --sd $SUBJECTS_DIR > > > > > > It says that fsaverage is missing. > > > > Can I simply copy the fsverage folder from the default Freesurfer > > "subjects" folder? > > > > Many thanks! > > Best Regards, > > Elijah > > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Martin Reuter > > <mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote: > >> Hi Elijah, > >> > >> > >> On 01/15/2014 04:10 PM, Elijah Mak wrote: > >> > >> Hi Martin, > >> > >> Thank you for your help. > >> > >> By re-processing, do you mean running recon-alls all over again? > >> > >> > >> Yes. 5.0 is old and it is better to run everything with 5.3 from > beginning > >> to end. If you have a lot of data or a lot of edits, you can try running > >> -base and -long in 5.3 and keep the independent (cross sectional) stuff > in > >> 5.0, but I don't recommend mixing versions. > >> > >> > >> > >> Could you elaborate on the advantage of creating a new subjectsdir and > >> copying over the orig dirs for each subject? > >> > >> This way you keep a backup copy of your old 5.0 processed data (to > lookup > >> edits etc). If you have a script that calls recon-all with the -i flag > for > >> inputs, you don't need to copy the mri/orig dirs (it will grab the data > >> from > >> the dicoms again). Copying the orig dirs and dropping -i will skip that > >> step. > >> > >> > >> On a related note, would it be better to run the full recon-all pipeline > >> for > >> each subject? I have been running batches of subjects at each stage > (i.e. > >> autorecon1, autorecon2, and finally autorecon3). > >> > >> Yes, full pipeline (-all) on all subjects is what I usually do. You can > >> run > >> individual steps and check intermediate results if you like, but I > usually > >> run everything and check everything at the end. > >> > >> Best, Martin > >> > >> > >> > >> Thank you again. > >> > >> Best Wishes, > >> Elijah > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Martin Reuter > >> <mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Elijah, > >>> > >>> if you have minimal edits, I'd recommend to reprocess the data from > >>> scratch with 5.3 (that is supposed to be the same as using the -clean > >>> flag > >>> when rerunning 5.3 on top of the old 5.0 data). But I'd recommend to > >>> create > >>> a new subjectsdir, copy over the subjedid/mri/orig dirs for each > subject > >>> and > >>> rerun from scratch with 5.3 the independent, base and long runs. > >>> > >>> Best, Martin > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 01/13/2014 06:18 PM, Elijah Mak wrote: > >>> > >>> Greetings Freesurfer Community, > >>> > >>> I am running a longitudinal study using Freesurfer v.5.3 to compare > rate > >>> of cortical thinning between 2 groups of subjects. I hope I can seek > some > >>> expert advice on the following situation: > >>> > >>> All data (both the baseline and follow-up) has been processed > >>> independently using recon-all. This has been done on Freesurfer 5.0. > >>> > >>> Since then, I have upgraded to Freesurfer v5.3 to utilize the linear > >>> mixed > >>> effect capability. > >>> > >>> For the construction of base and longs, I understand that it is > important > >>> to add -clean flag to my recon-all strings to overwrite brainmask.mgz > >>> etc. > >>> When must this be done? > >>> > >>> I am still new to Freesurer, and I'd greatly appreciate any advice > >>> regarding workflow. > >>> > >>> Many Thanks, > >>> > >>> Elijah > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> Elijah Mak, B.A. > >>> > >>> Doctoral Candidate | Psychiatry > >>> > >>> University of Cambridge | Department of Psychiatry > >>> > >>> Trinity College, Cambridge, CB2 1TQ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Freesurfer mailing list > >>> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > >>> https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Martin Reuter, Ph.D. > >>> Assistant in Neuroscience - Massachusetts General Hospital > >>> Instructor in Neurology - Harvard Medical School > >>> MGH / HMS / MIT > >>> > >>> A.A.Martinos Center for Biomedical Imaging > >>> 149 Thirteenth Street, Suite 2301 > >>> Charlestown, MA 02129 > >>> > >>> Phone: +1-617-724-5652 > >>> Email: > >>> mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > >>> reu...@mit.edu > >>> Web : http://reuter.mit.edu > >>> > >>> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom > it > >>> is > >>> addressed. 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If the e-mail was sent to > you in > >>> error > >>> but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and > >>> properly > >>> dispose of the e-mail. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Elijah Mak, B.A. > >> > >> Doctoral Candidate | Psychiatry > >> > >> University of Cambridge | Department of Psychiatry > >> > >> Trinity College, Cambridge, CB2 1TQ > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Martin Reuter, Ph.D. > >> Assistant in Neuroscience - Massachusetts General Hospital > >> Instructor in Neurology - Harvard Medical School > >> MGH / HMS / MIT > >> > >> A.A.Martinos Center for Biomedical Imaging > >> 149 Thirteenth Street, Suite 2301 > >> Charlestown, MA 02129 > >> > >> Phone: +1-617-724-5652 > >> Email: > >> mreu...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > >> reu...@mit.edu > >> Web : http://reuter.mit.edu > > > > > > > > -- > > Elijah Mak, Gates Scholar > > > > PhD Candidate | Psychiatry > > > > University of Cambridge | Department of Psychiatry > > > > Trinity College, Cambridge, CB2 1TQ > > > > > > > > -- > Elijah Mak, Gates Scholar > > PhD Candidate | Psychiatry > > University of Cambridge | Department of Psychiatry > > Trinity College, Cambridge, CB2 1TQ > > > -- Elijah Mak, Gates Scholar PhD Candidate *|* Psychiatry University of Cambridge *| *Department of Psychiatry Trinity College, Cambridge, CB2 1TQ
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