Hi Doug,
Is 'pctsurfcon' intended to supersede 'mri_cnr'?  If not, what are the
intended situations in which one would be used over the other?

thanks,
-MH

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On 3/24/14 5:21 PM, "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:

>
>you might want to look at the pctsurfcon script to see if that gets you
>where you want to be
>
>On 03/24/2014 06:18 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>> it really depends on the size of the abnormality. I would guess 2 is
>> too big, and you want something more like 1, and sampling not averaging
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2014, Markus Gschwind wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bruce!
>>> Ok I see, great! Tank you!
>>>
>>> So to double check, this will be something like :
>>>
>>> mri_vol2surf \
>>>
>>>
>>>   --mov /mri/nu.mgz \
>>>   --ref /mri/nu.mgz \
>>>
>>>   --surf /surf/lh.white
>>>   --projdist mmdist -2 \ # for inside white
>>>
>>>
>>>   # --projdist mmdist 2 \ # for outside white
>>>   --interp trilinear \
>>>   --hemi lh \
>>>   --out lh.nu_inside_white.mgh
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not sure which one to use from those, as I want to compare stable
>>> values but distant from white.
>>>
>>>
>>>    --projfrac-avg min max del : average along normal
>>>    --projdist mmdist : distance projection along normal
>>>    --projdist-avg min max del : average along normal
>>>
>>> What would you recommend?
>>> Thank you again!
>>> Markus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-24 21:29 GMT+01:00 Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>:
>>>       Hi Markus
>>>
>>>       I wouldn't use brainmask as it has been normalized too
>>>       aggressivley. Maybe the nu.mgz. Look at the difference between
>>>       values just outside of it and just inside of it
>>>
>>>       cheers
>>>       Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>       On Mon, 24 Mar 2014, Markus Gschwind wrote:
>>>
>>>             Dear Bruce,
>>>             Thanks for the rapid answer!
>>>
>>>             Do you mean that I take the voxel values of
>>>             brainmask.mgz at the place where
>>>             the ?h.white surface passes, right?
>>>
>>>             I thought that the ?l.white surface marks the limit
>>>             between GM and WM as a
>>>             result of a binary decision.
>>>             I would be interested in the local certainty of this
>>>             decision. I thought
>>>             this is represented by the slope between the values
>>>             around 70 and those
>>>             >100.
>>>
>>>             Thanks again,
>>>             Markus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             2014-03-24 19:26 GMT+01:00 Bruce Fischl
>>>             <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>:
>>>                   Hi Markus
>>>
>>>                   I would think that looking at the gray/white
>>>             contrast across the
>>>                   ?h.white surface would be more informative
>>>
>>>                   cheers
>>>                   Bruce
>>>                   On Mon, 24 Mar 2014, Markus Gschwind wrote:
>>>
>>>                         Dear all,
>>>                         I would like to capture regions where
>>>             the gray
>>>                         matter/ white matter junction is blurred
>>>             in order to
>>>                         detect possible focal
>>>                         cortical dysplasias.
>>>
>>>                         As I understood the WM/GM segmentation
>>>             is done by
>>>                         the script mri_segment.
>>>
>>>                         Would it be possible detect those
>>>             regions where the
>>>                         gradient between GM and WM regions is
>>>             low?
>>>
>>>                         I imagined that running mri_segment
>>>             several times,
>>>                         with each time a different lower GM
>>>             threshold and
>>>                         higher WM threshold, and
>>>                         then calculating the diference between
>>>             the results,
>>>                         might give such information.
>>>
>>>                         I am very much interested in what you
>>>             think about
>>>                         this approach and how to do it
>>>             practically.
>>>
>>>                         For info here are the optional flags of
>>>             mri_segment:
>>>
>>>                         -slope <s>
>>>
>>>                         set the curvature slope (both n and p)
>>>
>>>                         -pslope <p>
>>>
>>>                         set the curvature pslope (default=1.0)
>>>
>>>                         -nslope <n>
>>>
>>>                         set the curvature nslope (default=1.0)
>>>
>>>                         -debug_voxel <x y z>
>>>
>>>                         set voxel for debugging
>>>
>>>                         -auto
>>>
>>>                         automatically detect class statistics
>>>             (default)
>>>
>>>                         -noauto
>>>
>>>                         don't automatically detect class
>>>             statistics
>>>
>>>                         -log
>>>
>>>                         log to ./segment.dat
>>>
>>>                         -keep
>>>
>>>                         keep wm edits. maintains all values of 0
>>>             and 255
>>>
>>>                         -ghi, -gray_hi <h>
>>>
>>>                         set the gray matter high limit
>>>             (default=100.000)
>>>
>>>                         -wlo, -wm_low <l>
>>>
>>>                         set the white matter low limit
>>>             (default=90.000)
>>>
>>>                         -whi, -wm_hi <h>
>>>
>>>                         set the white matter high limit
>>>             (default=125.000)
>>>
>>>                         -nseg <n>
>>>
>>>                         thicken the n largest thin strands
>>>             (default=20)
>>>
>>>                         -thicken
>>>
>>>                         toggle thickening step (default=ON)
>>>
>>>                         -fillbg
>>>
>>>                         toggle filling of the basal ganglia
>>>             (default=OFF)
>>>
>>>                         -fillv
>>>
>>>                         toggle filling of the ventricles
>>>             (default=OFF)
>>>
>>>                         -b <s>
>>>
>>>                         set blur sigma (default=0.25)
>>>
>>>                         -n <i>
>>>
>>>                         set # iterations of border
>>>             classification
>>>                         (default=1)
>>>
>>>                         -t <t>
>>>
>>>                         set limit to thin strands in mm
>>>             (default=4)
>>>
>>>                         -v
>>>
>>>                         verbose
>>>
>>>                         -p <p>
>>>
>>>                         set % threshold (default=0.80)
>>>
>>>                         -x <filename>
>>>
>>>                         extract options from filename
>>>
>>>                         -w <w>
>>>
>>>                         set wsize (default=11)
>>>
>>>                         -u
>>>
>>>                         usage
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                         Thank you very much for all comments!
>>>
>>>                         Markus
>>>
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