Hi Anastasia,
could explain a little bit more what do you check exactly here?

"What I usually look at is dlabel/diff/aparc+aseg.bbr.nii.gz, overlaid
on dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz."

Which would be the freeview command to visualize it?

Thanks!
Gari


On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Anastasia Yendiki <
ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:

>
> Hi Vincent,
>
> 3. It's a pain, isn't it? I sympathize but looking at the data is always a
> good idea. Since you'll see all 3 views in fslview, the dark slices will
> look like dark lines in two of these views, so you don't have to scroll
> through slices. There's a couple of things you can do about motion, for
> example you can remove the DWI volumes that have the artifacts. But you'll
> have to make sure you're not doing this more for one group than the other.
>
> 2. What I usually look at is dlabel/diff/aparc+aseg.bbr.nii.gz, overlaid
> on dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz. And yes, I do this for all subjects and yes, it
> takes a while. Listening to music helps.
>
> Let me know if you have more questions!
> a.y
>
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2013, Vincent Brunsch wrote:
>
> > Hi Anastasia!
> >
> > I will go backwards with increasing difficulty to understand everything:
> >
> > 4. I see, yes this would not make sense. Thank you for the explanation!
> >
> > 3. With fslview I will have to run through 393,120 slices, then. (72
> slices
> > in z-direction for our 70 DWI scans for tp1 and tp2 for each of our 39
> > subjects) I will go dwi image by dwi image running through the 72 slices
> > rather fast. Just to make sure I am not wasting a lot of time: is this
> what I
> > should do? If I detect slices that are much darker than their neighbors,
> will
> > I need to exclude this subject for the analysis or can I do something
> about
> > it?
> >
> > 2. Yes, I use bbregister and I also use the anatomical T1 weighted scan
> to
> > extract the brain mask (usemaskanat=1). To make sure that everything is
> > alright, I would go slice by slice in tkmedit with
> > tkmedit [subject] brainmask.mgz -surfs -aparc+aseg where [subject] would
> be
> > the base AND both longitudinal runs. I understand that I need to check if
> > white matter is where it should be, if the cortical and pial surfaces are
> > where they should be and if the labelling is correct. Again, as this will
> > take probably even longer than 3. I would like to make sure this is the
> right
> > thing to do before starting the quality check.
> >
> > Thanks again!
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 10/11/2013 2:13 PM, schrieb Anastasia Yendiki:
> >>
> >> Hi Vincent - I'll take on the tracula-related parts:
> >>
> >> 2. For tracula, the part of the recon-all output that matters is the
> >> aparc+aseg. The surfaces will play a role only the DWI-to-T1
> registration
> >> (assuming you opt to use bbregister).
> >>
> >> 3. It's important to check your DWI data for obvious motion artifacts,
> >> (slices that are much darker than their neighbors). Right now this has
> to
> >> be done visually, but it's on my list to produce some motion metrics as
> >> part of the preprocessing.
> >>
> >> 4. The ball-and-stick model (that bedpostx fits to your data) is used by
> >> the tractography algorithm in tracula, but there are no stats produced
> on
> >> the parameters of that model currently. That's something that can be
> added
> >> in the future as well. Note though that it wouldn't make sense to just
> >> average f1 or f2 over the pathway, because compartment 1 in one voxel
> may
> >> correspond to compartment 2 in some other voxel.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >> a.y
> >>
> >> On Fri, 11 Oct 2013, vbrun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Freesurfer experts,
> >>>
> >>> I want to do a quality check on our imaging data. I used the
> longitudinal
> >>> stream for SBA and as the first step for the longitudinal white matter
> >>> analysis with TRACULA.
> >>> We had two time points in our study and thus, in the freesurfer output
> >>> directory there are 5 folders per subject (2 cross-sectional runs, 2
> long
> >>> runs and the base).
> >>>
> >>> 1. Would you recommend to use (all of) the QA_TOOLS on all of these 5
> >>> folders per subject for the SBA?
> >>> 2. Independent of the previous question, for the longitudinal version
> of
> >>> TRACULA would you recommend to use (all of) the QA_TOOLS on the
> freesurfer
> >>> base folder only / additional folders?
> >>> 3. In addition to the late visual check for well reconstructed pathways
> >>> with freeview, is there another automated possibility to check the
> quality
> >>> of the diffusion weighted images beforehand/do you think this is
> >>> necessary?
> >>>
> >>> 4. On another note: If I understand correctly, in TRACULA bedpostX is
> used
> >>> to reconstruct the pathways but then the mean over the voxels that were
> >>> hit (by the MCMC sampling of the paths) of measures from the tensor
> model
> >>> are taken as outputs. I wonder, is there also the possibility of using
> the
> >>> partial volumes f1, f2,.. as output measures?
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Vincent
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