Thanks for the reply.  Maybe I'm not thinking deeply enough about this, but
since there is a 1-to-1 mapping from white to pial vertices, is there a
possibility of self-intersection in the average?

-Keith


On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>wrote:

> Hi Keith
>
> the average white/pial surface doesn't have any topological or smoothness
> constraints, which is why we don't really use it. Yes, mris_expand is slow,
> but that's precisely because it prohibits self-intersection. The good nes
> is that compared to the rest of the recon stream it doesn't add that much
> time :)
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Keith Jamison wrote:
>
>  I have seen that the official recommendation for making a mid-gray surface
>> is to use mris_expand.  This seems to be a very slow procedure on my
>> machine.  I have also tried just loading the ?h.white and ?h.pial surfaces
>> into matlab, averaging their vertices, and exporting the result.  This
>> seems
>> to result in a nearly identical surface as mris_expand.  On a test
>> subject,
>> only 48 out of 127,998 (0.0375%) vertices differed by more than 0.1mm, and
>> these were almost entirely around the edges of the corpus callosum.
>>
>> Is there a reason this alternative is a bad idea?  I imagine mris_expand
>> does additional topology checks along the way, but if the vertices vary so
>> little, can that be a major problem?
>>
>> I'm inclined to go with the faster solution, but since I'm relatively new
>> to
>> this procedure, I wanted to see what the community's experience might be.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Keith
>>
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