are you positive that the SPSS model is exactly the same as the model in QDEC? You can get the design matrix from Xg.dat


On 1/8/13 11:15 PM, xiangbo_2010 wrote:
Dear doug
In the avg.dat file, where have 61 values which were equal with number of my subjects, however, I used these values in SPSS, there still no signifiant difference, thanks!
Bo Xiang




At 2013-01-09 11:53:15,"Douglas Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:

    Are those 3 numbers the values in the avg.dat file? Why do you
    think they are volume? In any event, they have the same
    interpretation as the values in y.mgh



    On 1/8/13 8:43 PM, xiangbo_2010 wrote:
    Dear doug
    I used the command: mri_segstats --i y.mgh --slabel fsaverage lh
    yourlabel.label > --avgwf avg.dat --id 1, and the terminal is
    following:
    cmdline mri_segstats --i
    /media/freesurfer1/CT/qdec/Untitled/y.mgh --slabel fsaverage rh
    control_AA_GG_ba.label --avgwf avg.dat --id 1
    sysname Linux
    hostname psylab-desktop
    machine x86_64
    user psylab
    Constructing seg from label
    Loading /media/freesurfer1/CT/qdec/Untitled/y.mgh
    Vertex Area is 0.501505 mm^3
    Generating list of segmentation ids
    Found 1 segmentations
    Computing statistics for each segmentation
    0 1 19 6.91357
    Reporting on 1 segmentations
    Computing spatial average of each frame
    0
    Writing to avg.dat
    From the above result, can be show 'Vertex Area is 0.501505 mm^3'
    and the value of my result were 0.752064
    0.773072 0.800245, should be the size of volume, not the surface
    area. these were my opinion, hope you give me some advice, thanks!

    Bo Xiang

    At 2013-01-08 09:25:05,"Douglas N Greve"<gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>  wrote:
    >
    >How do you know it is the volume and not surface area? The values will
    >be whatever are in y.mgh, so  if y.mgh has surface area, then the output
    >will  be surface area.
    >
    >
    >On 01/07/2013 07:38 PM,xiangbo_2...@126.com  wrote:
    >>
    >> I used the command:
    >> mri_segstats --i y.mgh --slabel fsaverage lh yourlabel.label > --avgwf 
avg.dat --id 1. Thanks!
    >>
    >> Bo Xiang
    >>   送自我的HTC One SU
    >>
    >> ----- Reply message -----
    >> 发件人: "Douglas N Greve"<gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
    >> 收件人: "xiangbo_2010"<xiangbo_2...@126.com>,"Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu"  
<Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
    >> 主题: [Freesurfer] 回复:  回复:  about ROI to SPSS
    >> 日期: 周二, 1 月 8 日, 2013 年 01:51
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> what was your command line?
    >>>
    >>> On 01/05/2013 01:43 AM, xiangbo_2010 wrote:
    >>>> Dear doug
    >>>> Using the command to only obtain the size of volume from every
    >>>> subject, however, I want to obtain the size of surface area from every
    >>>> subject, what should I do? thanks!
    >>>> Bo Xiang
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> At 2013-01-05 13:12:18,"Douglas Greve"<gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>  
wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>      Drawing the ROI as a label is fine. Just don't transfer the label
    >>>>      to each individual subject. The y.mgh is all the data for all the
    >>>>      subjects in the fsaverage space (where the label is defined). You
    >>>>      can use mri_segstats, something like
    >>>>
    >>>>      mri_segstats --i y.mgh --slabel fsaverage lh yourlabel.label
    >>>>      --avgwf avg.dat --id 1
    >>>>
    >>>>      avg.dat will have one column and number of rows equal to the
    >>>>      number of subjects
    >>>>
    >>>>      doug
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>      On 1/4/13 11:20 PM, xiangbo_2010 wrote:
    >>>>>      Dear doug
    >>>>>      I am sorry to disturb you again, I still do not know how to
    >>>>>      direct obtain the label of two significant clusters, is not to
    >>>>>      draw the ROI? thanks!
    >>>>>      Bo Xiang
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>      At 2013-01-05 06:49:14,"Douglas N 
Greve"<gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>   wrote:
    >>>>>      >yes y.mgh
    >>>>>      >On 01/04/2013 05:13 PM,xiangbo_2...@126.com   wrote:
    >>>>>      >> Do you mean input the file of y.mgh to mri_glmfit and run? 
Thanks!
    >>>>>      >> Bo Xiang
    >>>>>      >> 发送自我的HTC One SUJ
    >>>>>      >>
    >>>>>      >> ----- Reply message -----
    >>>>>      >> 发件人: "Douglas N Greve"<gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
    >>>>>      >> 收件人:<xiangbo_2...@126.com>
    >>>>>      >> 抄送: "freesurfer"<freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
    >>>>>      >> 主题: [Freesurfer] 回复:  about ROI to SPSS
    >>>>>      >> 日期: 周六, 1 月 5 日, 2013 年 05:48
    >>>>>      >>
    >>>>>      >>
    >>>>>      >>
    >>>>>      >>
    >>>>>      >>> That technique can yield inconsistent results when the ROI 
is small (as
    >>>>>      >>> in your case). You are better off extracting the data 
directly from the
    >>>>>      >>> input to mri_glmfit. This is created by QDEC and is called 
y.mgh. This
    >>>>>      >>> will be a file with number of frames equal to the number of 
subjects.
    >>>>>      >>>
    >>>>>      >>> doug
    >>>>>      >>>
    >>>>>      >>>
    >>>>>      >>>
    >>>>>      >>>
    >>>>>      >>> On 01/04/2013 04:13 PM,xiangbo_2...@126.com   wrote:
    >>>>>      >>>> I drawing two ROIs in two clusters, and mapping two labels 
to all subjects, following extract the average surface area of two ROIs from every subject. Anyway, 
whether have command to direct obtain the label of two clusters, not to drawing the ROIs from these 
clusters, then there have exactly data to be obtained. Thanks!
    >>>>>      >>>> Ho Xiang
    >>>>>      >>>>
    >>>>>      >>>> 发送自我的HTC One SU
    >>>>>      >>>>
    >>>>>      >>>> ----- Reply message -----
    >>>>>      >>>> 发件人: "Douglas N Greve"<gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
    >>>>>      >>>> 收件人:<freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
    >>>>>      >>>> 主题: [Freesurfer] about ROI to SPSS
    >>>>>      >>>> 日期: 周六, 1 月 5 日, 2013 年 02:42
    >>>>>      >>>>
    >>>>>      >>>>
    >>>>>      >>>>
    >>>>>      >>>>
    >>>>>      >>>>> Hi Bo, you need to make sure that you have exactly the 
same design
    >>>>>      >>>>> matrix in SPSS. The design matrix for qdec is Xg.dat in 
the output
    >>>>>      >>>>> directory. How did you extract the data out of the ROIs?
    >>>>>      >>>>>
    >>>>>      >>>>> doug
    >>>>>      >>>>>
    >>>>>      >>>>>
    >>>>>      >>>>>
    >>>>>      >>>>> On 01/02/2013 11:46 PM, xiangbo_2010 wrote:
    >>>>>      >>>>>> Dear experts
    >>>>>      >>>>>> I has obtained two ROIs (corrected FDR) difference 
between AA and
    >>>>>      >>>>>> GG regressing out the effect of age and gender using the 
QDEC with
    >>>>>      >>>>>> attachment, following extract the average surface area of 
two ROIs to
    >>>>>      >>>>>> analysis using SPSS, in which I used the
    >>>>>      >>>>>> Univariate Analysis of Variance to find the difference 
between AA and
    >>>>>      >>>>>> GG, gender and age as covariates,  but find that there no 
significant
    >>>>>      >>>>>> in these ROIs, I want to know why there were significant 
difference in
    >>>>>      >>>>>> QDEC, but no significant difference in SPSS? I hope that 
have experts
    >>>>>      >>>>>> to help me, thanks!
    >>>>>      >>>>>> Bo Xiang
    >>>>>      >>>>>>
    >>>>>      >>>>>>
    >>>>>      >>>>>>
    >>>>>      >>>>>>
    >>>>>      >>>>>>
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