Thank you Michael, I was wondering about a nuisance specific to area analysis. I understand using ICV or brain volume in volumetric analysis, but for area analysis something like "overall pial area" seems more logical to me. That is why I am curious if there is any literature about area (surface) analysis in particular. Am I at the right track at all?
Best wishes, Tanja. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Michael Harms <mha...@conte.wustl.edu> wrote: > > Typically one uses either a measure of "brain volume" or an estimate of > intracranial volume -- the choice depends on whether or not you want to > control for whole brain atrophy when making your interpretations, in > which case you would use "brain volume" rather than ICV. There have > been numerous posts to the list on this issue, so try searching the > archives. > > As for articles, you could start with the ones below. > > cheers, > -MH > > > 1: Mathalon DH, Sullivan EV, Rawles JM, Pfefferbaum A. Correction for > head size > in brain-imaging measurements. Psychiatry Res. 1993 Jun;50(2):121-39. Erratum > in: > Psychiatry Res 1994 Sep;55(3):179. PubMed PMID: 8378488. > > > 2: Arndt S, Cohen G, Alliger RJ, Swayze VW 2nd, Andreasen NC. Problems with > ratio > and proportion measures of imaged cerebral structures. Psychiatry Res. 1991 > May;40(1):79-89. PubMed PMID: 1946842. > > > 3: O'Brien LM, Ziegler DA, Deutsch CK, Kennedy DN, Goldstein JM, Seidman LJ, > Hodge S, Makris N, Caviness V, Frazier JA, Herbert MR. Adjustment for whole > brain > and cranial size in volumetric brain studies: a review of common adjustment > factors and statistical methods. Harv Rev Psychiatry. 2006 > May-Jun;14(3):141-51. > Review. PubMed PMID: 16787886. > > > 4: O'Brien LM, Ziegler DA, Deutsch CK, Frazier JA, Herbert MR, Locascio JJ. > Statistical adjustments for brain size in volumetric neuroimaging studies: > some > practical implications in methods. Psychiatry Res. 2011 Aug 30;193(2):113-22. > PubMed PMID: 21684724. > > > 5: Sanfilipo MP, Benedict RH, Zivadinov R, Bakshi R. Correction for > intracranial > volume in analysis of whole brain atrophy in multiple sclerosis: the > proportion > vs. residual method. Neuroimage. 2004 Aug;22(4):1732-43. PubMed PMID: > 15275929. > > > On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 12:26 +0100, Tetiana Dadakova wrote: >> Dear FreeSurfer experts, >> >> I have a question regarding pial area analysis. >> >> What is commonly used as a nuisance variable to correct for brain size >> difference between groups (e.g men vs women)? Can you suggest any >> article where this is discussed or has been done? >> >> Thank you, >> Tanja. >> _______________________________________________ >> Freesurfer mailing list >> Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu >> https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer >> >> >> The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is >> addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail >> contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance >> HelpLine at >> http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in >> error >> but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and >> properly >> dispose of the e-mail. > > _______________________________________________ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer