No, use the register.dat that you manually created as the input to 
bbregister with the --init-reg. You could move your register.dat to 
regidster.man.dat and set the output to be register.dat.
doug

Joana Braga Pereira wrote:
> Hi Doug,
>
> Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure i understand how to solve it.
> Are you suggesting to re-run bbregister using the --init-reg option 
> and the register.dat files  that were previously created for the 
> badly-registered subjects?
>
> Joana
>
>
> 2011/10/17 Douglas N Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
> <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>
>
>     Those almost surely failed because of a bad initialization. You
>     can usually tell this by looking at the first value in the mincost
>     file. For these, the mincost is something like .9. The mincost
>     will be a value bet 0 and 1.1, with 0 being perfect. Looks at your
>     good subjects to get an idea of what range to expect for
>     well-registered subjects. You should be able to use the
>     registrations you created as input to bbregister (with the
>     --init-reg option), and bbregister should do fine after that.
>     doug
>
>     Joana Braga Pereira wrote:
>
>         Hi Doug,
>
>         I made quite a few changes, including translations and
>         rotations (not scaling changes), to 10 out of 24 subjects.
>
>         Here are a few of the bbregister log.files from subjects in
>         which the registration didn't go well.
>
>         Thanks for the help!
>
>         Joana
>
>         2011/10/17 Douglas N Greve <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>>
>
>
>            Hi Joana, how big were the changes that you made? Sometimes the
>            initialization routine won't get it close enough, then
>         bbregister
>            fails. Can you send the bbregister log file?
>            doug
>
>            Lilla Zollei wrote:
>
>
>                Even though it is not ideal, manual adjustments can be
>         useful.
>                I would use manual registration in a small number of cases
>                though. If most of your data requires it, I would try
>         to play
>                with the automatic registration parameters more.
>
>                --Lilla
>
>                On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Joana Braga Pereira wrote:
>
>                    Dear Lilla and Ed,
>                    Thanks a lot for your suggestions, they were really
>         really
>                    helpful!
>
>                    I did the analyses as you suggested. After bbregister i
>                    checked the results with tkregister2 and saw that most
>                    subjects were well coregistered. However in a few
>         of them
>                    my lowb images were out of place with respect to the
>                    target and so i made manual adjustments using
>         bbregister
>                    interface tools..
>
>                    I was just wondering whether this is the normal
>         procedure
>                    as manual adjustments can be quite subjective and i
>         would
>                    prefer not to introduce such a bias in the analyses.
>
>                    Thanks a lot for your valuable help!
>
>                    Joana
>
>                                 2011/10/15 Ed Gronenschild
>         <ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl
>         <mailto:ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl>
>                    <mailto:ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl
>         <mailto:ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl>>>
>
>                         Dear Joana,
>                    Two things:
>
>                    1.
>                    You should be very careful to use fslswapdim since
>         it may
>                    result
>                    in an unintended left-right flipping. It's better
>         to use
>                    fslreorient2std.
>                    2.
>                    The tool dt-recon computes the coregistration of
>         the lowb
>                    volume to
>                    the anatomical volume, see register.dat.
>                    You can then use the following to coregister FA:
>
>                    mri_vol2vol --reg  register.dat --mov fa.nii --o
>                    fa-ana.nii -targ subject/mri/T1.mgz
>
>                    where "subject" is the output folder generated by the
>                    recon-all command.
>                    You should not forget to set the global variable
>         SUBJECTS_DIR
>
>                    Cheers,
>                    Ed
>
>                    On 14 Oct, 2011, at 18:00,
>                    freesurfer-requ...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:freesurfer-requ...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>                    <mailto:freesurfer-requ...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>         <mailto:freesurfer-requ...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>
>
>                    Dear Bruce and Anastasia,
>
>                    Thanks for the quick reply!
>
>                    I tried the bbregister as you suggested but when i
>                    visualize the target and
>                    dti image they don't look registered at all.
>
>                    This is the comand i used:
>
>                    bbregister --s CN01 --mov
>                    /home/joana/FA/CN01/dti_FA.nii.gz --reg
>                    /home/joana/FA/CN01/register.dat --init-fsl --dti
>                    --template-out
>                    /home/joana/FA/CN01/template.nii.gz --fslmat
>                    /home/joana/FA/CN01/flirt.tmx
>
>                    I tried to use the bbregister tools to align them but I
>                    didn't get very
>                    far...
>
>                    Did i miss something?
>
>                    I read in another mail something about using the
>                    register.dat created in
>                    bbregister and do mri_label2vol but i'm not sure
>         how to do it.
>
>                    Thanks,
>
>                    Joana
>
>
>
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