Bruce,

Yeah, I know about that danger. We are doing this on brains where we have a
marker - a vitamin e capsule on the left side of the forehead. I'm most
concerned about learning how to rotate the brains at all, right at the
moment.

Thanks (for the concern as well),

Margaret

On 8/20/08, Bruce Fischl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Margaret and Kathy,
>
> you *really* don't want to be trying to guess the orientation yourself as
> you are likely to get left/right wrong. Avi: have you moved data back and
> forth into freesurfer?
> cheers
> Bruce
>
>
>
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Margaret Sheridan wrote:
>
> We are new users of freesurfer (linux v 4.0.5) and have the following
>> question:
>>
>> We have some .4dfp.img MPRAGE files which we are trying to use (from Wash
>> U). When we run recon_all (1st step) or mri_convert on its own, the brain
>> comes up upside down as if it was rotated 180 degrees around the sagital
>> plane (see attached picture of the 4dfp.img file viewed in scuba). Since
>> when we view the original 4dfp.img file or the orig.mgz file they are both
>> in this orientation it appears that this is a problem with the original
>> files.
>>
>> If we use tkmedit to rotate the brain around the sagital plane once we're
>> in
>> .mgz format the recon steps (including normalization which, obviously,
>> would
>> fail previously when the brain was upside down) would complete fine.
>> However
>> I'd prefer to rotate these brains using mri_convert (or another program)
>> so
>> I can rotate the original files; which is why I'm writing now.
>>
>> To determine what the current orientation for these images was I opened
>> the
>> original files in scuba & ran MRI convert like this:
>> mri_convert --in_orientation ASL -i vcXXX.4dfp.img --out_orientation ASL
>> -o
>> vcXXX.4dfp.ASL.img
>>
>> until I found an orientation which matched the original. The orientation
>> which matched the original was ASL. In this step I just converted from one
>> form to the same form to reduce confusion.
>>
>> Next I ran several versions of the following:
>> mri_convert --in_orientation ASL -i vcXXX.4dfp.img --out_orientation SAR
>> -o
>> vcXXX.4dfp.SAR.img
>>
>> however no mater how I changed the 'out orientation' when the files were
>> viewed in scuba they all appeared to have the same orientation as the
>> original (ASL or rotated around the sagital plane).
>>
>> Is there any more documentation on re-orienting in mri_convert or does
>> anyone have any ideas/experience that can help?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Margaret Sheridan
>> Kathy Zhang
>>
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