Hi Leila,

Have you noticed other differences in the same subject using V4 vs V3
(i.e. gray/white bounday differences, thickness thickness difference,
etc.) using the same subject? The V4 parcellation should theoretically not
be much different from the V3 scheme with the exception of improvement in
certain areas such as the anterior cingulate, entorhinal, and the inferior
parietal lobule. Where exactly do you find the most amount of difference
between the two versions?

Best,

rahul

> Hi Leila,
>
> do you see this in other subjects? We also have a utility
> (mris_divide_parcellation) for automatically dividing each parcellation
> unit along it's long axis.
>
> Bruce
>
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007, Leila BH wrote:
>
>> Hi Bruce,
>> Thanks for your answer,
>> Actually I reprocessed on subject (I have choose one case who doesn't
>> need
>> any editing) and the parcellation result is more accurate in midline but
>> worst in some other part, is it just by chance? That's why I am asking
>> about
>> the variability(in version 3 /and between V3 and V4). I attached 2 tif
>> files
>> for more precision. (one is done with vesion3 and one version4)
>> In my work I have to parcellate the cortex on 1000 small ROIs, I use
>> freesurfer to do that, based on the 35 parcellation, I subdivide each
>> one on
>> small rois, so my small ROIs are not really based on gyrus and sulcus,
>> and
>> to validate my method I want to know the 'error' or variability of the
>> original 35-parcellation. Do you suggest me to run one subject N times
>> to
>> see that? Or do you already know the variability of all the Freesurfer
>> pipeline (till the parcellation)?
>> thanks
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce
>> Fischl
>>
>> Sent: samedi, 8. septembre 2007 03:24
>> To: Leila BH
>> Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] variability
>>
>> Hi Leila,
>>
>> Xiao Han's NeuroImage paper discusses thickness variability, and we've
>> looked at parcellation variability in-house, but I don't think we've
>> published on it. The V4 parcellation is should be a bit more accurate at
>> the midline, but not substantially different.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Bruce
>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Leila BH
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Is there any paper talking about the variability of the used methods
>>> (on
>>> reconall )? Especially the parcellation? If I reprocess one subject 10
>> times
>>> with the same Freesurfer version, should I expect the same result for
>>> parcellation?
>>>
>>> The freesurfer version that I use is stable3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried to see if the parcellation of the new Freesurfer version is
>> similar
>>> (visually) to the stable3, and it was very different, is the
>>> parcellation
>>> method the same in both version?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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