yes i already had the file. the one you sent me seemed to be a newer version
though, so i ran paint-sess using that, but it gives the same error message.

jane


In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bruce
Fischl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> hmmm, do you have it? If not, I've attached a copy.
> 
> cheers,
> Bruc
> e
> On Tue, 3 Jan 2006, Jane Aspell wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > I would be really grateful if someone could help me with the problems I am
> > having with mk-fieldsign. Even after installing a new version of freesurfer 
> > and
> > making various changes to libraries etc. when i run:
> > "paint-sess -sf sessid -a rtopy -hemi rh" i get the error below:
> >
> > tksurfer: run tcl script: mk-fieldsign.tcl
> > couldn't read file "mk-fieldsign.tcl": no such file or directory
> >
> > even though mk-fieldsign.tcl is in the same directory as tksurfer.tcl (which
> > works fine).
> > i am running Red Hat Linux release 9 (Shrike) and installed from
> > freesurfer-Linux-rh9-v2.2.tar.gz
> >
> > any idea what to do?
> > thanks again for your help!
> >
> > Jane
> >
> >
> > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nick
> > Schmansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> Jane,
> >>
> >> Concerning the libraries libitk3.2.so and libitcl3.2.so, Freesurfer does
> >> not use these libraries any more (I think the older -20040218 release
> >> did, however).
> >>
> >> Do you have the environment variable ITCL_LIBRARY defined in your
> >> startup .cshrc file?  You can test if it is set by typing (in csh or
> >> tcsh):
> >>
> >>   env|grep ITCL
> >>
> >> If it is set (which it might be, from your older freesurfer
> >> installation), then it should be deleted or commented-out from
> >> your .cshrc (or possibly it was placed in your
> >> $FREESURFER_HOME/SetUpFreeSurfer.csh file).
> >>
> >> You can also just type this:
> >>
> >>   unsetenv ITCL_LIBRARY
> >>
> >> and then try tkmedit.
> >>
> >> If this is not the problem, can you tell me which OS you are running?
> >> Type:
> >>
> >>   cat /etc/redhat-release
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >>   uname -a
> >>
> >> A last ditch effort is to install the itcl libs, from this site:
> >>
> >>  http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=itcl
> >>
> >> But this should not be necessary, as tkmedit that you have does not use
> >> this library (I am truly puzzled why 'ldd' shows that it needs these
> >> libs).
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Nick
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 11:40 +0000, Jane Aspell wrote:
> >>> hi nick
> >>>
> >>> when i type >ldd `which tkmedit` i get the ouput pasted below this email.
> >>> libitk3.2.so and libitcl3.2.so are not found - could be the problem?
> >>>
> >>> uncommenting 'source ${FSL_DIR}/etc/fslconf/fsl.csh' in FreeSurferEnv.csh
> >>> (and typing 'unsetenv TCLLIBPATH') had no effect.
> >>>
> >>> an earlier version of freesurfer(freesurfer-20040218) didn't give me any 
> >>> of
> >>> these problems and tkmedit etc worked fine.
> >>>
> >>> also, does ANYONE know how to interpret the colour coding (for 
> >>> fovea/vertical
> >>> meridian etc) produced by the FsFast retinotopy analysis?!
> >>>
> >>> thanks again!
> >>>
> >>> jane
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> ldd `which tkmedit`
> >>>  libtix8.1.8.3.so =>
> >>> /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib/libtix8.1.8.3.so (0x40017000)
> >>>         libtk8.4.so =>
/home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib/libtk8.4.so
> >>> (0x40051000)
> >>>         libtcl8.4.so =>
> >>> /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib/libtcl8.4.so (0x40111000)
> >>>         libglut.so.3 => /usr/lib/libglut.so.3 (0x401ba000)
> >>>         libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x401ef000)
> >>>         libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x401f8000)
> >>>         libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40210000)
> >>>         libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x40226000)
> >>>         libGLU.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0x4022e000)
> >>>         libGL.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x402ab000)
> >>>         libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x402ef000)
> >>>         libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x403ce000)
> >>>         libtiff.so.3 => /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 (0x403ed000)
> >>>         libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x4042e000)
> >>>         libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x4045b000)
> >>>         libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x40469000)
> >>>         libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0x4048b000)
> >>>         libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x42000000)
> >>>         libitk3.2.so => not found
> >>>         libitcl3.2.so => not found
> >>>         libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4049a000)
> >>>         libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4049e000)
> >>>         libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x404f0000)
> >>>         libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x404ff000)
> >>>         libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x405b2000)
> >>>         /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nick
> >>> Schmansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>>> Jane,
> >>>>
> >>>> This is an unusual error, since tkmedit and tksurfer do not use the ITK
> >>>> library.  To figure out how libitk3.2.so is being referenced, can you
> >>>> send me the output of this command:
> >>>>
> >>>>   ldd `which tkmedit`
> >>>>
> >>>> I suspect there is some conflict between the FSL setup and Freesurfer,
> >>>> as FSL does use ITK, and Freesurfer does not, but performs the FSL setup
> >>>> (as a convenience to MGH-NMR users).  Along this line, one option is to
> >>>> edit the file FreeSurferEnv.csh (found in your $FREESURFER_HOME) and
> >>>> comment-out this line:
> >>>>
> >>>>   source ${FSL_DIR}/etc/fslconf/fsl.csh
> >>>>
> >>>> like this:
> >>>>
> >>>> # source ${FSL_DIR}/etc/fslconf/fsl.csh
> >>>>
> >>>> Another option is to type this after sourcing the freesurfer setup file:
> >>>>
> >>>>   unsetenv TCLLIBPATH
> >>>>
> >>>> This last option is just a guess at a fix though.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nick
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 15:37 +0000, Jane Aspell wrote:
> >>>>> hi
> >>>>>
> >>>>> i installed a newer version of freesurfer (using download
> >>>>> freesurfer-Linux-rh9-v2.2.tar.gz) but when i try and run tkmedit or
> > tksurfer i
> >>>>> get the error:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "error while loading shared libraries: libitk3.2.so: cannot open shared
> > object
> >>>>> file: No such file or directory"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> this is my output when i source SetUpFreeSurfer.csh:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Setting up environment for FreeSurfer/FS-FAST (and FSL)
> >>>>> FREESURFER_HOME /home/jaspell/freesurfer
> >>>>> FSFAST_HOME     /home/jaspell/freesurfer/fsfast
> >>>>> SUBJECTS_DIR    /home/jaspell/freesurfer/subjects
> >>>>> FUNCTIONALS_DIR /home/jaspell/freesurfer/sessions
> >>>>> MINC_BIN_DIR    /usr/pubsw/packages/mni/current/bin
> >>>>> MINC_LIB_DIR    /usr/pubsw/packages/mni/current/lib
> >>>>> TCLLIBPATH      /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib
> >>>>> FSL_DIR         /usr/local/fsl
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and these are the contents of 
> >>>>> /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> blt2.4/            libBLTlite24.a         libtclstub8.4.a
> > libtk8.4.so*
> >>>>> tix8.1/
> >>>>> libBLT24.a*        libBLTlite.2.4.dylib*  libtix8.1.8.3.so
> > libtk.so.0*
> >>>>> tixConfig.sh
> >>>>> libBLT.2.4.dylib*  libBLTlite.a           libtix8.1.8.4.so
> > libtkstub8.4.a
> >>>>> tk8.4/
> >>>>> libBLT.2.dylib*    libtcl8.4.so*          libtixsam8.1.8.4.so  tcl8.4/
> >
> >>>>> tkConfig.sh
> >>>>> libBLT.a*          libtcl.so.0*           libtix.so.0          
> >>>>> tclConfig.sh
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> any idea how to fix it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> i don't suppose there's a way of updating an old version of freesurfer
> > without
> >>>>> reinstalling the entire (new version) package?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> thanks!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> jane
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Doug
> >>>>> Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's a pretty old version. Can you download and install a new 
> >>>>>> version?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I actually don't know that much about the interpretation of the color
> >>>>>> wheel. Maybe Nouchine or Sari can help with this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> doug
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Jane Aspell wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> hi again
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> i'm still really stuck with my retinotopy analysis as i'm not sure if 
> >>>>>>> my
> >>>>>>> version of paint-sess $Id: paint-sess,v 1.2 2003/08/06 00:53:50
> > greve Exp $
> >>>>>>> FAST Version 20031218) has a bug in it (it doesn't make the field sign
> >>> map). i
> >>>>>>> originally downloaded freesurfer-20040218-Linux.tar.gz (for RedHat 9).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> also, can someone also confrim the colour coding is: red=upper
> > field/fovea,
> >>>>>>> blue=horizontal meridian/parafovea, green=lower visual 
> >>>>>>> field/periphery?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> i can't work out what the overlay threshold settings should be in
> >>> tksurfer to
> >>>>>>> correctly display the colours to code the retinotopy, is there some
> >>> rationale
> >>>>>>> for choosing them?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> thanks a lot for your help!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jane
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In message
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug
> >>>>>>> Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What version of freesurfer (and paint-sess) are you using? This was a
> >>>>>>>> problem in some versions about 6 mo ago, but I thought I fixed them
> >>>>>>>> all.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> doug
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Nov 2005, Jane Aspell wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> hi again
> >>>>>>>>> I have been proceeding with the retinotopy analysis using FsFast,
> >>>>>>> following the
> >>>>>>>>> instructions at:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> > https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsFastIndividualRetinotopyAnalysis
> >>>>>>>>> and i believe i have successfully overlaid the results on my
> > surfaces and
> >>>>>>> now
> >>>>>>>>> have two questions:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> i wasn't able to create the fieldsign with 'paint-sess' because it
> >>>>>>> couldn't find
> >>>>>>>>> tksurfer.new. when i run 'surf-sess' i use the flag -old which
> > forces it
> >>>>>>> to use
> >>>>>>>>> tksurfer.old but this doesn't work in the former case. how can i 
> >>>>>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>>> 'paint-sess' use tksurfer.old and thus create the fieldsign?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> there are no instructions on how to relate the colours seen when
> > viewing
> >>>>>>> eccen
> >>>>>>>>> and polar to the location of the ring and wedge. is there a map
> > somewhere
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>> can be loaded that tells me what order the colours run from fovea to
> >>>>>>> periphery
> >>>>>>>>> and from vertical to horizontal meridian etc.?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> thanks again for your help!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> jane
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
> >>>>>>>> MGH-NMR Center
> >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>>> Phone Number: 617-724-2358
> >>>>>>>> Fax: 617-726-7422
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.
> >>>>>> MGH-NMR Center
> >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>> Phone Number: 617-724-2358
> >>>>>> Fax: 617-726-7422
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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Dr Jane Aspell
Department of Experimental Psychology, University of Oxford,
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