Hi Jane,

Can you send all the relevant info? See

https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting

doug


Jane Aspell wrote:
hi again

we've been trying various things to get mk-fieldsign to work: installing the
development version of freesurfer and trying it on a different computer, but we
get the same error message. We thought that perhaps mk-fieldsign doesn't have
the same access permissions as the other tcl scripts or that it's not actually
looking in the same directory as for, e.g. tksurfer.tcl for which it gives the
full path:

  surfer: using interface /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcl/tksurfer.tcl
  Read /home/jaspell/freesurfer/surface_labels.txt, found 95 structures
  tksurfer: run tcl script: mk-fieldsign.tcl

we are still stuck so would be really grateful for any tips!
thanks very much,
Jane


In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bruce
Fischl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
  
hmmm, do you have it? If not, I've attached a copy.

cheers,
Bruc
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On Tue, 3 Jan 2006, Jane Aspell wrote:

    
Hi

I would be really grateful if someone could help me with the problems I am
having with mk-fieldsign. Even after installing a new version of freesurfer and
making various changes to libraries etc. when i run:
"paint-sess -sf sessid -a rtopy -hemi rh" i get the error below:

tksurfer: run tcl script: mk-fieldsign.tcl
couldn't read file "mk-fieldsign.tcl": no such file or directory

even though mk-fieldsign.tcl is in the same directory as tksurfer.tcl (which
works fine).
i am running Red Hat Linux release 9 (Shrike) and installed from
freesurfer-Linux-rh9-v2.2.tar.gz

any idea what to do?
thanks again for your help!

Jane


In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nick
Schmansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
      
Jane,

Concerning the libraries libitk3.2.so and libitcl3.2.so, Freesurfer does
not use these libraries any more (I think the older -20040218 release
did, however).

Do you have the environment variable ITCL_LIBRARY defined in your
startup .cshrc file?  You can test if it is set by typing (in csh or
tcsh):

  env|grep ITCL

If it is set (which it might be, from your older freesurfer
installation), then it should be deleted or commented-out from
your .cshrc (or possibly it was placed in your
$FREESURFER_HOME/SetUpFreeSurfer.csh file).

You can also just type this:

  unsetenv ITCL_LIBRARY

and then try tkmedit.

If this is not the problem, can you tell me which OS you are running?
Type:

  cat /etc/redhat-release

and

  uname -a

A last ditch effort is to install the itcl libs, from this site:

 http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=itcl

But this should not be necessary, as tkmedit that you have does not use
this library (I am truly puzzled why 'ldd' shows that it needs these
libs).

Thanks,

Nick


On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 11:40 +0000, Jane Aspell wrote:
        
hi nick

when i type >ldd `which tkmedit` i get the ouput pasted below this email.
libitk3.2.so and libitcl3.2.so are not found - could be the problem?

uncommenting 'source ${FSL_DIR}/etc/fslconf/fsl.csh' in FreeSurferEnv.csh
(and typing 'unsetenv TCLLIBPATH') had no effect.

an earlier version of freesurfer(freesurfer-20040218) didn't give me any of
these problems and tkmedit etc worked fine.

also, does ANYONE know how to interpret the colour coding (for fovea/vertical
meridian etc) produced by the FsFast retinotopy analysis?!

thanks again!

jane


          
ldd `which tkmedit`
            
 libtix8.1.8.3.so =>
/home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib/libtix8.1.8.3.so (0x40017000)
        libtk8.4.so =>
          
/home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib/libtk8.4.so
  
(0x40051000)
        libtcl8.4.so =>
/home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib/libtcl8.4.so (0x40111000)
        libglut.so.3 => /usr/lib/libglut.so.3 (0x401ba000)
        libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x401ef000)
        libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x401f8000)
        libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x40210000)
        libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x40226000)
        libGLU.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1 (0x4022e000)
        libGL.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x402ab000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x402ef000)
        libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x403ce000)
        libtiff.so.3 => /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 (0x403ed000)
        libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x4042e000)
        libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x4045b000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/tls/libm.so.6 (0x40469000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0 (0x4048b000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x42000000)
        libitk3.2.so => not found
        libitcl3.2.so => not found
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4049a000)
        libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x4049e000)
        libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x404f0000)
        libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x404ff000)
        libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x405b2000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)



In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nick
Schmansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
          
Jane,

This is an unusual error, since tkmedit and tksurfer do not use the ITK
library.  To figure out how libitk3.2.so is being referenced, can you
send me the output of this command:

  ldd `which tkmedit`

I suspect there is some conflict between the FSL setup and Freesurfer,
as FSL does use ITK, and Freesurfer does not, but performs the FSL setup
(as a convenience to MGH-NMR users).  Along this line, one option is to
edit the file FreeSurferEnv.csh (found in your $FREESURFER_HOME) and
comment-out this line:

  source ${FSL_DIR}/etc/fslconf/fsl.csh

like this:

# source ${FSL_DIR}/etc/fslconf/fsl.csh

Another option is to type this after sourcing the freesurfer setup file:

  unsetenv TCLLIBPATH

This last option is just a guess at a fix though.

Nick


On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 15:37 +0000, Jane Aspell wrote:
            
hi

i installed a newer version of freesurfer (using download
freesurfer-Linux-rh9-v2.2.tar.gz) but when i try and run tkmedit or
              
tksurfer i
      
get the error:

"error while loading shared libraries: libitk3.2.so: cannot open shared
              
object
      
file: No such file or directory"

this is my output when i source SetUpFreeSurfer.csh:

Setting up environment for FreeSurfer/FS-FAST (and FSL)
FREESURFER_HOME /home/jaspell/freesurfer
FSFAST_HOME     /home/jaspell/freesurfer/fsfast
SUBJECTS_DIR    /home/jaspell/freesurfer/subjects
FUNCTIONALS_DIR /home/jaspell/freesurfer/sessions
MINC_BIN_DIR    /usr/pubsw/packages/mni/current/bin
MINC_LIB_DIR    /usr/pubsw/packages/mni/current/lib
TCLLIBPATH      /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib
FSL_DIR         /usr/local/fsl

and these are the contents of /home/jaspell/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib:

blt2.4/            libBLTlite24.a         libtclstub8.4.a
              
libtk8.4.so*
      
tix8.1/
libBLT24.a*        libBLTlite.2.4.dylib*  libtix8.1.8.3.so
              
libtk.so.0*
      
tixConfig.sh
libBLT.2.4.dylib*  libBLTlite.a           libtix8.1.8.4.so
              
libtkstub8.4.a
      
tk8.4/
libBLT.2.dylib*    libtcl8.4.so*          libtixsam8.1.8.4.so  tcl8.4/
              
tkConfig.sh
libBLT.a*          libtcl.so.0*           libtix.so.0          tclConfig.sh


any idea how to fix it?

i don't suppose there's a way of updating an old version of freesurfer
              
without
      
reinstalling the entire (new version) package?

thanks!

jane




In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
              
Doug
      
Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
              
That's a pretty old version. Can you download and install a new version?

I actually don't know that much about the interpretation of the color
wheel. Maybe Nouchine or Sari can help with this.

doug


On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Jane Aspell wrote:

                
hi again

i'm still really stuck with my retinotopy analysis as i'm not sure if my
version of paint-sess $Id: paint-sess,v 1.2 2003/08/06 00:53:50
                  
greve Exp $
      
FAST Version 20031218) has a bug in it (it doesn't make the field sign
                  
map). i
          
originally downloaded freesurfer-20040218-Linux.tar.gz (for RedHat 9).

also, can someone also confrim the colour coding is: red=upper
                  
field/fovea,
      
blue=horizontal meridian/parafovea, green=lower visual field/periphery?

i can't work out what the overlay threshold settings should be in
                  
tksurfer to
          
correctly display the colours to code the retinotopy, is there some
                  
rationale
          
for choosing them?

thanks a lot for your help!

Jane


In message
                  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug
          
Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
                  
What version of freesurfer (and paint-sess) are you using? This was a
problem in some versions about 6 mo ago, but I thought I fixed them
all.

doug



On Thu, 24 Nov 2005, Jane Aspell wrote:

                    
hi again
I have been proceeding with the retinotopy analysis using FsFast,
                      
following the
                  
instructions at:

                      
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsFastIndividualRetinotopyAnalysis
      
and i believe i have successfully overlaid the results on my
                      
surfaces and
      
now
                  
have two questions:

i wasn't able to create the fieldsign with 'paint-sess' because it
                      
couldn't find
                  
tksurfer.new. when i run 'surf-sess' i use the flag -old which
                      
forces it
      
to use
                  
tksurfer.old but this doesn't work in the former case. how can i make
'paint-sess' use tksurfer.old and thus create the fieldsign?

there are no instructions on how to relate the colours seen when
                      
viewing
      
eccen
                  
and polar to the location of the ring and wedge. is there a map
                      
somewhere
      
that
                  
can be loaded that tells me what order the colours run from fovea to
                      
periphery
                  
and from vertical to horizontal meridian etc.?

thanks again for your help!

jane



                      
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