On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 4:20 PM, Ralf Quint <freedos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/21/2018 11:46 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote:
>>
>> I've used ios (junked it), Android & Freedos. Freedos is not too far
>> behind those two. Android is fine but is always being upgraded.
>> I think I'm on my 10th tablet. They work for awhile but then
>> soon need a upgrade - buy a new tablet time is about every 6 months so
>> far.At least tablets are dirt cheap; not too much pain.
>
> Get a new tablet when it needs a software upgrade? =-O
> Are you buying a new car each time the tank runs empty? I have done that
> software update on my Samsung tablet each time it was offered...

Unfortunately, not all vendors that produce Android tablets actually
push version upgrades.  Samsung does.  Mine does not, but as
explained, I don't care.  I certainly wouldn't buy a new tablet just
to get a version upgrade.  The question is "Does the version I'm
running support the apps I use?"  If so, an upgrade is not required.
(And my latest tablet runs 6.01 Marshmallow, which brings with it an
annoyance - I haven't been able to root it.  The rooting solutions
that worked on earlier versions bounce off.  It means I can't remove
vendor bloatware, or make a few configuration changes that require
root to work.)

>> I wish I could do on Excell half the stuff I can do on dos
>> Qpro. On windows Excell everything has to be done with
>> Visual basic commands;  the macro commands seem to
>> be only window dressing - they don't do everything the books claim.
>
> Well, Visual Basic for Applications (VBA) is actually a quite powerful way
> of writing macros, and deserves a better reputation as Visual Basic itself
> (specially all the permutation after VB6).

And VBA is under the hood as the programming language for all of the
MS Office packages.

> But then I have a client who desperately run Lotus 1-2-3 on Windows 10, just
> because they can't get their head around to rewrite some of the macros that
> that carry with them in the firm for the last 20+ years.

This happens all over.  I heard about Korean firms a while back still
running IE *5* because they used software written specifically to work
with IE5 that would break if they shifted to IE6. They weren't willing
to spend the money to upgrade their code.

I understand not wanting to change what you are used to doing, but the
longer you delay in upgrading your environment, the more painful it
will be when you finally have to.

I see a lot of that these days with folks who don't want to upgrade
their browsers.  All I can say is "Web standards are a moving target
and constantly evolving.  At some point, sooner rather than later,
your current browser version will start breaking on sites you visit
because those sites will do things your browser can't handle.  I know
you don't *want* to upgrade, but I'm afraid your stuck with it.  The
world will not sit still because you don't want to change."

>> Dos may have alot of limits but you can still get alot dfone with it.
>> HP could use FREEDOS development to break in their new
>> engineers. Most companies fire halft of their hires in a few months
>> if they can't produce. Dos could be used to weed them out.
>
> Not going to happen. Because a lot of programming paradigms and tools for
> today's environments are completely different that what would required for
> DOS. And yes, that includes GCC and similar abominations...

Yep.  DOS is simply long obsolete.  For that matter, we are seeing
signs GCC is gradually being abandoned.  Google's Android development,
for example, has shifted to using the Clang front end to LLVM.  Clang
and LLVM don't support as many targets as GCC does, and doesn't *plan*
to.  (GCC can compile Ada code.  LLVM isn't going near that...)

> Ralf
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Dennis

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