On 2012-11-11 22:44 (GMT-0500) Karen Lewellen composed:

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen proof 7.03 cannot coexist with a
>> "large" HD. Is it a lack of FAT32/>2GB partition support? That's her 
>> obstacle?

> the dell inspirium 7500, <spelling> comes with a 12 gig hard drive.  When

Inspiron http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/psyd/specs.htm

> we started the installation though, Dr dos via fdisk indicated only 7500 or
> so,  creating its first primary fat 16  partition at the 2 gig
> level...although we would find later that such was not what the drive was
> showing.

> We then tried, first the minimal fat 32 support for the logical rives in
> its extended partitions, then to create fat 16 ones.  the former failed
> totally.  the latter worked only slightly.   while there were variations
> the experimenting, the logical drives were less than 2 gig in most cases
> both as fat 16 and fat 32.  what would happen at the fat 16 level was that
> while the second and third, say e: and F: drives functioned fine, the d: as
> in the line where the extended and primary met did not, general protection
> errors, not allowing us to copy files or create directories, no allocation
> units on that part of the drive.

> We took a look with ranish finding over lapping partitions everywhere, the
> actual c drive was 4 gig, the cylinder arrangement was off etc.  although
> we tired using ranish to create the partitions instead, Dr dos 7.03 simply
> would not see  them at all, no matter how divided, even as fat 16.
> There are more details, but that gives You an idea.

I did a little investigating and determined Novell DOS didn't include LBA 
support, so I'm not even going to look for my NDOS 7 floppies. It was late 
when I looked, so I don't remember whether I found out if DR DOS included LBA 
or not, but the investigation prompted me to perform some experiments with my 
PIII Dell laptop after swapping the installed HD for another purely to do 
this with, size 30GB.

Using DFSee (running on FreeDOS), I wiped, forced geo to H255 S63 (required 
for maximum DOS partition size, I think), then created:
FAT pri 2047M
FAT pri 243M
FAT pri 200M
FAT log 2047M
FAT log 2047M
FAT log 2047M
FAT32 log (balance of space)

I then set the first active and booted FreeDOS kernel 2040. It reported 
various errors for all partitions. Then I did some math:

          512        512        BPS
          240        255 Heads
           63         63 Sectors
      7741440    8225280 Bytes per cylinder
         7560       8033 divide by 1024
         1890       2008 divide by 4

Then I repeated the first wipe and partition process, except for the sizes, 
while leaving the laptop BIOS default heads at 240:
FAT pri 1875M
FAT pri 243M
FAT pri 200M
FAT log 1875M
FAT log 1875M
FAT log 1875M
FAT32 log 20664M (balance)

On next FreeDOS kernel 2040 boot, it reported all (visible, skipping the 243 
& 240) partition sizes without errors:
C: 1875 MB
D: 1875 MB
E: 1875 MB
F: 1875 MB
G:20664 MB

This result suggests to me that limiting partition sizes to less than the 
maximum sizes FAT16 supports, as I did on second try, might get her going 
without errors.

I also tried other combinations. 255 63 geo with 2039M partitions also 
produced startup partition table errors, as did 255 63 geo with 2000M 
partitions. Switching back to 240 63 geo and 2037 partitions produced no errors.

I still think it's worth trying smaller partitions. I do also suggest doing 
all partitioning, and formatting, with modern tools (other than Ranish), 
followed by "installing" DR DOS simply by doing 'SYS C:' from a floppy boot, 
then completing installation manually, or doing same without the size 
reductions, if you can't get DR DOS to install according to its own 
instructions.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

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