Eric Auer schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
>>> was some effort to collect funds to make people like
>>> Japheth, Tom, Georg, Arkady (just examples!) do it.
>> You mean the thread in bttr?
> 
> Yes. And I mean please mention ALL URLs in ONE easy to
> google in the list archive mail: DOS soundcard Wiki,
> VSB ponderings Wiki, BTTR fundraising thread, (etc?) :-)

This 'easy to google' is easy said. It's already it's own 'sport'.

I am not convinced of the point of further improving this wiki site,
enough written down. As soon someone is seriously interested I am glad
to help, but until then it's a waste.

>> Do you avoid the question of YOUR price?
> 
> Well, to have lots of time, I would probably stop
> other work. Then you should assume 500-2500 Euros
> per month depending on charity, mood, taxes, cost
> of living, insurances etc. For doing it as a side
> project next to real life and normal job, making
> or modding VSB into JEMM386-AC97-HDA-SB16-coolish
> is simply too much work, or maybe I am too lazy.
> 
>>> You are right that I should at least try VSB once,
>> hell, YES!
> 
> Have you tried it?

Yes.

>>> internal PC speaker it will still be more useable than
>>> covox-only.
> 
> Based on the assumption: Speaker is better than no
> sound at all and people are no longer techy enough
> to build their own Covox...
> 
>>> Or does VSB already support PC speaker?
>> Didn't work for me for anything.
> 
> Did you try without emm386 and with real-mode games,
> for example commander keen or something? What do the
> VSB docs say about which features to expect in VSB?

Yes, without emm386. It just freezes, guess my hardware is to new.

>>> I also wonder whether it would be easier to start from
>>> "scratch" by porting dosemu sound code into a JLM.
>> or the DOSBox code... [or Bochs or Qemu or...]
> 
> Depends on which one is easier to port IMHO. C would be good.
> 
>>> would be interesting to hear from Japheth how well the
>>> JLM interface is suited for simulating I/O port based,
>>> ISA DMA accessible and IRQ generating devices...
> 
>> Why not mail him?
> 
> Feel free. Or just forward the snippet above :-)
> 
>> Seriously, where and how he should advertise it?
> 
> He could put some more docs on the JEMM386 homepage,
> or maybe put existing JLMs along with some more docs
> such as commented "how X did Y" snippets in a devel
> kit download or something... Think of xcdrom32 etc?
> Yet even xcdrom only uses, not simulates, IRQ/DMA.
> 
>>> PPS: That said, MPXPLAY and Arachne are probably the
>>> two most "wished to be resurrected" DOS projects now.
>> The sound project not?
> 
> Arachne and Mpxplay already do work on various hardware.
> Arachne has issues with limited features, Mpxplay with
> limited hardware support, but as you say, VSB is not in
> use at all because it is much more limited than those.
> So for practical reasons, continuing Arachne / Mpxplay
> might make more people happy for less work than new VSB.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> 
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