Am 13.07.2013 14:35, schrieb Jack Wilborn:
 but you don't have another route?

Of course , i joined the list in 2010 and was faszinated from the idea of a #freedombox, at that time i was aware that the facts ed snowden revealed allready exist, so it was my motivation to see how computer experts and internet pioneers on this list can handle the issues.

After a while , i saw we have several frontiers here, like in real life, so Eben Moglen did not send ONE MAIL to this mailing list in all the time, mr. bgale is retired and there is a "secret" mailinglist where these folks talk. What has been done in all the time is a disscusion about a bootloader (religious ) and a webinterface called Plint which has reached version 0.1

We have some reglious debian freaks on here and discuss pseudoanonymity and reputation based systems, we have a lot of knowledgable people on this list
but its sems like everyone is trapped in his own mind.

My resumee after reading all this dissusions " when you have an idea , never ask a developer what he thinks about it, just make it."


cheers

P.S. Yes i know melvin , but did you get the real problem or you just comment on anything just because you can ?



Yes that's what I mean...

Jack


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:24 AM, macbroadcast <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Am 13.07.2013 14:12, schrieb Jack Wilborn:

          In other words are there proprietary chips inside that we
        don't have access?

    ........guess we have to blame the semiconductors then....


    
http://www.isuppli.com/Semiconductor-Value-Chain/News/Pages/Qualcomm-Rides-Wireless-Wave-to-Take-Third-Place-in-Global-Semiconductor-Market-in-2012.aspx

    marc


        Jack


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