Hi,

Sorry for forgetting to paste the smart details. Pressed send too quickly.

However, when I did check the smart stats again, I noticed I'd been smartctling the wrong disk (duh), and smart was not enabled on the new disks. I enabled it now, and it comes with a bunch of warnings and other stuff....

Considering it wasn't enabled, maybe the errors wouldn't show up anyway, but here's the output of the smartctl command just in somebody sees something to worry about in it... (The ECC recovery count looks rather high, I tried -F samsung and -F samsung2 but that didn't help).

Regards,
Sebastiaan

[EMAIL PROTECTED](ttyp3:59:0):~# smartctl -a /dev/ad4
smartctl version 5.37 [i386-portbld-freebsd6.3] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     SAMSUNG HD103UJ
Serial Number:    S13PJ1BQ606865
Firmware Version: 1AA01112
User Capacity:    1,000,204,886,016 bytes
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   7
ATA Standard is:  Not recognized. Minor revision code: 0x52
Local Time is:    Tue Aug  5 15:15:20 2008 CEST

==> WARNING: May need -F samsung or -F samsung2 enabled; see manual for details.

SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00) Offline data collection activity
                                        was never started.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever
                                        been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:                 (11811) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:                    (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
                                        command.
                                        Offline surface scan supported.
                                        Self-test supported.
                                        Conveyance Self-test supported.
                                        Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                                        power-saving mode.
                                        Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
                                        General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:        ( 198) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (  21) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 253 253 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0007 090 090 011 Pre-fail Always - 4050 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 4 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 253 253 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0025 100 100 015 Pre-fail Offline - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 230 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0033 100 100 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 4 13 Read_Soft_Error_Rate 0x000e 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 183 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 184 Unknown_Attribute 0x0033 100 100 099 Pre-fail Always - 0 187 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 188 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 190 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 056 056 000 Old_age Always - 740818988 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 052 052 000 Old_age Always - 48 (Lifetime Min/Max 0/12324) 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 153751007 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x000a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 201 Soft_Read_Error_Rate 0x000a 253 253 000 Old_age Always - 0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 0
Warning: ATA Specification requires self-test log structure revision number = 1
No self-tests have been logged.  [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


SMART Selective Self-Test Log Data Structure Revision Number (0) should be 1
SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 0
Warning: ATA Specification requires selective self-test log data structure revision number = 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

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Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 12:28:40PM +0200, Sebastiaan van Erk wrote:
However, a lot of disk activity on the drives will often cause the machine to crash and spontaneously reboot. I checked out which chipset was on the card with pciconf -lv and I found it was the Sil 3512. Googling showed me that I'm not the only one with problems using this card.

Yes, most of the Silicon Image ICs I've read about have odd driver
problems or general issues (even under Windows).  The system rebooting
is an odd one; you sure your PSU can handle two disks?

Does anybody have experience with a (preferably not too expensive) 2-port SATA expansion card which does not have any issues running under FreeBSD 6.3/7.0?

Promise makes some consumer-priced cards which work very well under
FreeBSD (sos@ has full documentation on their cards).

Their RAID controllers (the consumer-level ones) **do not** require that
you use RAID; they support JBOD, and the disks will show up under
FreeBSD as ad(4) devices.  (If you choose to use the RAID, you'll still
see the ad(4) disks, but you'll also see an ar(4) device too.  This has
the added advantage of you being able to monitor SMART stats on the
disks themselves directly, etc...

[pciconf -lv output]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:10:0: class=0x018000 card=0x35121095 chip=0x35121095 rev=0x01
hdr=0x00
    vendor     = 'Silicon Image Inc (Was: CMD Technology Inc)'
    device     = 'Sil 3512 SATALink/SATARaid Controller'
    class      = mass storage

[/var/log/messages before the crash]
Aug 5 11:16:14 piglet kernel: g_vfs_done():mirror/gm1s1e[WRITE(offset=111376236544, length=16384)] error = 6
Aug  5 11:16:17 piglet last message repeated 9 times

Are you sure this is being caused by the controller?  Have you checked
SMART statistics on both disks?  Assuming error == errno, errno 6 is
"Device not configured".

There's been recent discussion of such messages being caused by the use
of gmirror or gjournal, when the mirror/journal is improperly set up.
(In one users' case, he was receiving similar errors, as well as the
filesystem failing during fsck.  Turns out he incorrectly configured
journalling, which nuked the last ~1MB of his UFS filesystem.)

I'm not saying this is the reason for the messages you see, but it's
something to keep in mind.

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