Hi Uli: Thanks again. There was an email from Mathew Seaman - however it came as only attachments, and not knowing him I did not open them - there was not text at all in the body of the email. Maybe I will now open it..
I do not know anything much about inodes or file handles either... My thinking was to just use brute force and chop away much of the ports collection that I am not likely to need on my little web server. There are a myriad of ports for audio, games etc. not to mention X files. That should free up a lot of file handles. I don't want to put everything into too much of a tizzy however the next time I update them. Probably the most sensible thing to do is simply remove it entirely and just do single port upgrades as needs be. Cheers, Graham/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Graham North" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree > On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Graham North wrote: > > > Hi Uli and the rest of the FreeBSD forum: > > > > Thanks for your advice - though I am not entirely sure what the purpose of > > your last questions are. > I wanted to know about your ressources, since your ports dirctory > might grow very big, if you don't clean it up every now and then. > Matthew gave some hints about that at the last part of his mail. > > I hardly know anything about inodes, but as far as I understand, > you would have to reformat your entire filesystem to change > anything about this. > > The simpliest way to update your system on a small hd > would be to keep strictly to binary upgrades and installations. > You won't need the ports directory then (neither the system > sources in /usr/src). > > Another simple idea would be to get another small hd somewhere, > devide it into two slices and mount one on /usr/ports and the > other on /usr/src . > This would give you enough space to do full rebuilds of your > system and your ports. > > If you have enough patience and time you can also download single > port directories from www.freebsd.org/ports, place them in > appropriate directories and try to make install them. > They will complain when they are missing some other port. > I have done that to set up a samba printer server, but next time > I will use binary packages. > > > Uli. > > > > > > > > > To answer though: > > My HD is about 1.2G - it is sharing 2.0G with another OS. > > /usr ~ 778M > > usr/ports ~247M > > total /usr being used is ~595M with about 183M free. > > > > The problem is not disk space - it appears to be file handles. Remember, > > those ports files are only about 0.5K each - so lots of inodes are being > > used in file infrastructure. Midnight Comm which I use for a lot of file > > navigation indicates that I had 99838 inodes available - of which there are > > now only 602 free! Yesterday that was about 900, but then I mirrored part > > of a friend's website and used another 300. > > As you can see, I need to free up some file handling capability. > > > > Thanks for any further advice you can give. > > > > Cheers, Graham/ > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Graham North" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 1:29 AM > > Subject: Re: Pruning the Ports Tree > > > > > >> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Graham North wrote: > >> > >>> Is it alright to prune the Ports tree - and still do updates later. > >>> > >>> I am running 4.8 stable and recently did a full Ports tree > >>> update using CVSUP. This generates several questions. 1) I > >>> took the advice of Michael Urban's book and upgraded from the > >>> "Head" of the source tree rather than from that for 4.8 - did I > >>> really want to do that? Does it matter for a Ports only > >>> updating? > >> It is recommended to use the appropriate kernel and base system > >> with your ports. Things might work the way you did it, or > >> (probably) not. > >> > >> 2) The tree is getting pretty big - result, lots of > >>> files. My hard drive is not very big - it is down to a few > >>> hundred inodes (file handles) within the usr directory. Can I > >>> prune the tree on my hard drive without compromising future > >>> updates? If it helps, my machine is not using X only command > >>> mode so there are lots of Ports that will never be made. > >> For further advices it would be helpful to know how big your hd > >> is and how much diskspace is used by your ports tree. > >> You can check the latter by > >> # du -h -d 1 > >> (see # man du) > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Uli. > >> > >>> Thanks for any help that can be offered. > >>> > >>> Graham/ > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > >>> > >>> > >> > >> +---------------------------+ > >> | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | > >> | Wuppertal | > >> | Germany | > >> +---------------------------+ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > +---------------------------+ > | Peter Ulrich Kruppa | > | Wuppertal | > | Germany | > +---------------------------+ > _______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
