On 2013-10-04 08:18, Marcus von Appen wrote: > On, Thu Oct 03, 2013, Fernando Apesteguía wrote: > >> El 03/10/2013 22:41, "Marcus von Appen" <m...@freebsd.org> escribió: >>> >>> On, Thu Oct 03, 2013, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >>> >>>> On 10/03/13 07:17, Andriy Gapon wrote: >>>>> on 03/10/2013 11:48 Baptiste Daroussin said the following: >>>>>> This also allows lots of new features to come: >>>>>> - Allow to create sub-packages >>>>>> - Allow to create debuginfo packages. >>>>> I'd like to mention a few other possibilities along the same lines: >>>>> - doc packages >>>>> - examples packages >>>>> - "devel" packages (headers, tools and other files required for >> compiling >>>>> dependent software, but not generally needed for an end user) >>>> >>>> Please no devel packages. >>> >>> Seconded. >> >> What's wrong with devel packages? > > It complicates things for developers and custom software on > FreeBSD. The typical situation that I see on most Linux platforms is a > lot of confusion by people, why their custom software XYZ does not > properly build - the most common answer: they forgot to install a > tremendous amount of dev packages, containing headers, build tools and > whatnot. > On FreeBSD, you can rely on the fact that if you installed e.g. libGL, > you can start building your own GL applications without the need to > install several libGL-dev, libX11-dev, ... packages first. > This is something, which I personally see as a big plus of the FreeBSD > ports system and which makes FreeBSD attractive as a development platform. >
I share your arguments from the developer perspective, but having the ability to do sub-packages doesn't mean until now a port will be chopped into binary, header, man, debug, docs, examples ... I see also a big improvement with sub-packages, there are many ports that are build twice at the moment because we do not have sub-packages. For example: - (postgresql|mysql|bacula|...)-(server|client) - apr-util (install backend support without rebuilding everything) So sub-packages are the right thing to do, but the default sub-packages should be discussed. -- olli _______________________________________________ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
