On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, Doug Barton wrote:

Hey,

In any case I didn't say that 6rd was not useful at all. What I tried to make the case for is that its utility is limited, both in the absolute sense and in the temporal sense; and that because of these limitations the benefits that adding the code bring are outweighed by the costs of maintaining it past what will likely be its useful lifetime.

The maintainance costs are effectively pretty low, especially as it's coming
with stf; it's a single line in a kernel config and not many more files but
it will have great value to a lot of people the next years.


My point about FreeBSD 9 is that if we add the 6rd code today, then release 9.0 in about a year, then support the RELENG_9 branch for 4-6 years that we will still be maintaining code that no one has any use for. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

While I would like to live in that kind of world that by mid 10s all
the tunneling, transition, .. technologies would be gone, ideally
along with legacy IP, I guess you are massively underestimating this
from the early adopters point of view; while for some of us things
have happened and we are waiting for the world to catch up, for other
folks things might not start within the another product lifecycle.
I am sure we'll see a lot of different scenarios for quite some time.
I would expect that we'll still be shipping that code in at least 12.x.

Though completely taken out of context, Dave Ward's words the minute on
from there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXMMBrWRnvc#t=49m54s
summarizes some things quite nicely.


In contrast, the bit of my post that you snipped suggested that a better course of action would be to focus on the areas of our v6 stack that will be used for the lifetime of the protocol, like the performance penalty that currently exists for the v6 loopback device.

I think that noone questions that this will need time as well and so
do another 15 things on the IPv6 side but maybe someone is already
working on it ..

/bz

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Bjoern A. Zeeb                              Welcome a new stage of life.
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