On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:01:27PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: > On 25 October 2012 22:32, Garrett Cooper <yaneg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Marcel Moolenaar <mar...@xcllnt.net> wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> I think there are 2 reasons why not to: > >> > >> 1. The people working on ATF have not raised this concern and > >> have expressed that using the WITH_BMAKE knob is but a small > >> price to pay. So let's work the bmake side and be able to > >> get rid of the knob as soon as possible. > > > > It is annoying with the magnitude of build-related errors, but I have > > a workaround. > > > >> 2. More knobs isn't better -- we must have none of the knobs in > >> the end, so the more we create, the more work we have to get > >> rid of them. That's just more work spent not focusing on the > >> task at hand and thus more time wasted. > > > > Yes, but not being able to update one's machine makes me sad panda. > > > >> In short: this isn't a 2-knob problem by any stretch of the > >> imagination. > > > > The real issue is that I need to take the patch Simon developed, run > > with it, and in parallel he needs to -- and hopefully already is -- > > engage portmgr to get it through a number of exp- runs to make sure > > bmake does what it's supposed to do with his patch. Backwards > > compatibility will need to be maintained for ports because ports has > > to work on multiple versions of FreeBSD [where bmake isn't yet > > available/present], so maybe a fork in the road for bsd.port.mk should > > be devised in order to make everything work. > > Now you've terrified me, and probably most other ports people too. > > Is there a Wiki page where the actual benefits of moving to bmake are > made clear? This is a major, *major* upheaval, and having two > versions of bsd.port.mk for years is simply not an option. > Not much test has been done on the ports tree about it, from what I have tested so far, except from the :tu :tl difference the ports seems to work ootb with both bmake and make, I asked obrien to MFC the support for :tl :tu in make(1) to all available platform which he did.
Do be able to get the ports tree working with bmake asap, I also asked him to MFC it to 9.1, from latest reply he got positive answer from re@ about this, but was waiting for something I don't remember. regards, Bapt
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