On 2021-09-23 09:40, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz>: > On 22/09/2021 22:50, grarpamp wrote: >>> propose to make it the default shell for root starting FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE
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Whoever wants is free to add other users with root pemissions is free to do so.That is a zero sum argument. Ie, same can be said about those who wish to have the current default changed. Changing that default is actually going to require NEW special casing of any code that expects the now 30+ year default. Those who DO like it changed, have already made changes to have it changed, so changing the default only adds to work for both parties, to me a net loss.
____________________________^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'm well inclined to agree here. But my past expressions of such have been largely been ignored. In *this* case; it's not a big affect for me; as I roll out all my updates from build farms. So all my users are already predefined, and their dot files are preserved. But still, more changes == more work. :-( Out of curiosity; has anyone actually done a real assessment to determine the *actual* value of this (proposed) change? I mean in the end, do we really know the cost to loss ratio? --Chris
Leave the defaults alone, provide tools and such to make it easier for people to tweak those defaults on install. Stop adding work to both the people who like how it is now, and people who like the idea of this change, its not productive for anyone.Rolf M Dietze
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