>Well, I am aware of the fact that a visual design environment like lazarus
>(and delphi and VB), it's easy to fall into the trap to base your backend
>design on the GUI design. If Eclipse or KDevelop have a solution for this
>problem, then I'd like to hear it, but if they "solve" the problem by not
>being a visual design environment at all, the complete point is moot; then
>it's really unfair to say they're better because they *lack* features :-).
>
>Micha

Which is why again all that needs to be done is simply the programmer needs to 
ignore the
component palette, ignore Form1, and write everything from scratch in these 
cases if he
wants to. Just because Emacs has a crumby and slow textbased tetris games in 
it, doesn't
mean you have to use them either. It's just their for your convenience (yes, 
I'd hate to see
games inside Lazarus).

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