Yes Nick, my propossal could be started by one people, but only to attract community eyes and get more people involved. The problem here's as you say that is a "long road", very long..., but for me is the only way to make Flex as the preferred choice.
Regarding the actual code: I think it will end entering maintenance mode since the new flex will be simply another code base... 2012/11/15 Nick Tsitlakidis <ni...@perfectedz.com> > Carlos is suggesting a very nice way to solve all problems. But my opinion > is that a total rewrite needs A LOT of time and planning and at this the > most active people in the list are too few to handle something like this > and the others (less active) are just getting their feet wet. > > I think there is a long road and community engagement to reach a level > where a total rewrite in another version of AS can happen. > > So the question is what happens with the current codebase while the project > advances to reach that level. > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Jesus Barquin <yuka...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I agree with Carlos. > > > > > > 2012/11/15 Antonio Ortiz <zenk...@hotmail.com> > > > > > I agree with Carlos rovira. > > > That will be the best way to keep flex alive and better > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:42:46 +0100 > > > > Subject: Re: How to prepare Apache Flex 5 to run in the new AVM in > > > Flashplayer 12? > > > > From: carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com > > > > To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > I think that in the end a total rewrite should be done and better to > do > > > it > > > > directly in AS4. As I said some weeks ago my wishes for this project > > > would > > > > be to get: > > > > > > > > * SWF and HTML/JS output. (this will make traction since people going > > to > > > > HTML/JS are suffering the lack of OOP). > > > > * For SWF, build on top of Stage3D / Workers. > > > > > > > > Start Flex from scratch would bring all things that are make flex a > > > killer > > > > platform and remove all deprecated and legacy coming from Flash MX > > days. > > > > This should simplify Flex comparing with what we have today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2012/11/15 Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicho...@spoon.as> > > > > > > > > > It's hard to discern what AS4 will really include. I've only been > > > piecing > > > > > some of the info together from various chats and blog posts from > some > > > of > > > > > the FP team members. Porting Flex to AS4 would most likely be even > > > harder > > > > > than it would have been for Stage3D... > > > > > > > > > > -Nick > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Carlos Rovira < > > > > > carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >Starling won't be compatible with it > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting, I was not aware about this fact. In my mind the > first > > > > > > important task for Flex 5 would be to move to Starling + > > Stage3D...in > > > > > case > > > > > > this could be done, it should be revisited again to go > > AS4+AVMNext... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2012/11/15 Nicholas Kwiatkowski <nicho...@spoon.as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From what Adobe has told publicly, the new AVM (AVM3 / AS4) > will > > be > > > > > very > > > > > > > different from AVM2/AS3. No display lists, uses "Stage3D" for > > > > > > everything, > > > > > > > etc. They haven't said anything more other than Starling won't > > be > > > > > > > compatible with it -- there may be a new version created, but > > > since AS4 > > > > > > > will be different people will have to re-write large portions > of > > > code > > > > > to > > > > > > > use it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Sebastian Mohr < > > > > > flex.masul...@gmail.com > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any insides of the new AVM of the > forthcoming > > > > > > > > Flashplayer 12 in 2013? Are there any APIs (e.g. > specification > > > > > > documents) > > > > > > > > that Adobe is willing to share? Is Starling [1] the only hook > > we > > > can > > > > > > get? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely Yours, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Mohr > > > > > > > > Apache Flex Developer (PPMC), > > > > > > > > Interaction Designer & Musician > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/masuland > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] http://gamua.com/starling/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Carlos Rovira > > > > > > Director de Tecnología > > > > > > M: +34 607 22 60 05 > > > > > > F: +34 912 35 57 77 > > > > > > http://www.codeoscopic.com > > > > > > http://www.directwriter.es > > > > > > http://www.avant2.es > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Carlos Rovira > > > > Director de Tecnología > > > > M: +34 607 22 60 05 > > > > F: +34 912 35 57 77 > > > > http://www.codeoscopic.com > > > > http://www.directwriter.es > > > > http://www.avant2.es > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Nick Tsitlakidis, > > CEO and Software Architect at Perfect Edge LTD. > www.perfectedz.com > -- Carlos Rovira Director de Tecnología M: +34 607 22 60 05 F: +34 912 35 57 77 http://www.codeoscopic.com http://www.directwriter.es http://www.avant2.es
