"Yes, I am only talking about Android here, that is what I use. I really never see myself developing on iOS, so why would I even care about it. ;-)"
Do I hear my voice echo? Dude, I really need to know you. ;-) On Nov 15, 2012 12:40 AM, "Michael Schmalle" <apa...@teotigraphix.com> wrote: > Well I can guarantee my development is strictly native Android for the > next couple years at least hopefully a lot longer. > > I could see myself contributing a huge amount of my own resources if I > somehow tied that into my Android endeavors. Creating an abstraction of > their UI stuff would be really fun and could turn into something I hadn't > even thought of. > > Yes, I am only talking about Android here, that is what I use. I really > never see myself developing on iOS, so why would I even care about it. ;-) > > When I write tools I always aim for an abstract structure, dealing with > MXML we already have it. So if this falls under your HTML5/Web 42 cross > compilation, think tank, cloud computing blah blah blah, then great! If > not, it does for me. :) (general statement, not aimed at you aYo) > > Mike > > Quoting aYo ~ <a...@binitie.com>: > > a lot of my current work is now AIR and native Android based. Coming from >> a >> flash flex background, I found droid development a lot easier because of >> its similarity to flex development. Michael has a bijou of an idea here. >> On 14 Nov 2012 23:34, "Michael Schmalle" <apa...@teotigraphix.com> wrote: >> >> Yes, it does exist and Google has don a fine job promoting their layout >>> designer etc. >>> >>> Coming from years of Flex development and MXML application design I can >>> certainly say that although using XML as they do is great, having a >>> compiler like the MXML compiler could offer a huge abstraction that their >>> XML could not match. >>> >>> Plus the extension side of being able to produce their layout XML OR >>> straight Java constructs is compelling enough for me to want to try it. >>> >>> One of the great things I am realizing about Apache is I don't work for a >>> corporation and even the WC3. I work for myself fulfilling something I >>> see >>> that could help "something", maybe myself as centered as that sounds. >>> >>> Regardless of this idea I have, my point is this. One of Adobe's >>> marketing >>> schemes was to throw crap on every wall possible and market it as such >>> with >>> huge holes in between. >>> >>> Apache Flex will get a new life if us committers and community realize it >>> didn't work then and it won't work now. (The one size fits all). I want >>> to >>> start off with point specific tools that do 1 thing. I have developed >>> enough tools to know you don't invent a swiss army knife until you have >>> invented the knife, screwdriver, cork opener etc. Once you have all the >>> tools you can then put them together. >>> >>> As far a JavFX well, I don't know I haven't used it. >>> >>> Like I said, I have no stake in Flex and I want to stay away from the >>> Flash Player and AIR. This doesn't mean I won't contribute if momentum >>> goes >>> in a certain direction, just that I want my own dream that isn't canned >>> into the cliche'd 2012 HTML5 hype. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> Quoting Carlos Rovira <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com****>: >>> >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>>> >>>> could you explain a bit more?. Your idea is about make XML layout for >>>> Android based on Falcon?. I don't know to much about native android >>>> development but this does not exit yet? >>>> >>>> btw, a coworker showed me latest version of JavaFX and I think it would >>>> be >>>> a good idea for all of us here to see this new version since I think >>>> it's >>>> very promising. I saw many things copied from flex (skins, skinparts, >>>> xml >>>> layout declaration, netbeans desing view editor,...). If JavaFx is as >>>> good >>>> as it seems to be, I think it could be a decent competitor, taking into >>>> account that thinks like eclipse, maven and other industrial tools work >>>> like a charm in java. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2012/11/14 Gordon Smith <gosm...@adobe.com> >>>> >>>> > MXML -> Java Android UI like View and ViewGroup. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Interesting idea! >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Michael Schmalle [mailto:apache@teotigraphix.****com< >>>>> apa...@teotigraphix.com> >>>>> ] >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:07 PM >>>>> To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org >>>>> Subject: [FALCON] It starts with an idea >>>>> >>>>> Hey, >>>>> >>>>> I just wanted to state this in a new thread so others might know my >>>>> intentions as a committer for the time being. Some of you might have >>>>> noticed I am quite interested in the compiler and plan on donating a >>>>> lot >>>>> of >>>>> my time to it helping Gordon out with tests and trying to get the >>>>> community >>>>> involved by documenting some of the more obscure features. >>>>> >>>>> One thing I want to note; >>>>> >>>>> At this point in time in my life I really don't care about Javascript. >>>>> Really, I don't and it's never going to be a badge on my backpack of >>>>> life. >>>>> >>>>> That being said, I see my contribution in the project a process of joy >>>>> and >>>>> invention. Just writing something to Gordon a second ago I realized >>>>> what >>>>> that is. The only way I can continue is if I have a goal. That goal is >>>>> realized by the fact I program Java android and do extensive UI stuff >>>>> with >>>>> music applications I have coming up in the next 2 years using a Java >>>>> C++ >>>>> toolkit I have been working on the last >>>>> 10 months. >>>>> >>>>> What does this mean? MXML -> Java Android UI like View and ViewGroup. >>>>> Man I have no idea how the hell I could do it but I know I want to and >>>>> am >>>>> going to try. >>>>> >>>>> Getting into the MXML compiler the last couple days reminded me of the >>>>> diamond in the haystack we have. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, more thoughts to come, this was a off the cuff ramble. >>>>> >>>>> Peace, >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC >>>>> http://www.teotigraphix.com >>>>> http://blog.teotigraphix.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Carlos Rovira >>>> Director de Tecnología >>>> M: +34 607 22 60 05 >>>> F: +34 912 35 57 77 >>>> http://www.codeoscopic.com >>>> http://www.directwriter.es >>>> http://www.avant2.es >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC >>> http://www.teotigraphix.com >>> http://blog.teotigraphix.com >>> >>> >>> >> > -- > Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC > http://www.teotigraphix.com > http://blog.teotigraphix.com > >
