Well I can guarantee my development is strictly native Android for the next couple years at least hopefully a lot longer.

I could see myself contributing a huge amount of my own resources if I somehow tied that into my Android endeavors. Creating an abstraction of their UI stuff would be really fun and could turn into something I hadn't even thought of.

Yes, I am only talking about Android here, that is what I use. I really never see myself developing on iOS, so why would I even care about it. ;-)

When I write tools I always aim for an abstract structure, dealing with MXML we already have it. So if this falls under your HTML5/Web 42 cross compilation, think tank, cloud computing blah blah blah, then great! If not, it does for me. :) (general statement, not aimed at you aYo)

Mike

Quoting aYo ~ <a...@binitie.com>:

a lot of my current work is now AIR and native Android based. Coming from a
flash flex background, I found droid development a lot easier  because of
its similarity to flex development. Michael has a bijou of an idea here.
On 14 Nov 2012 23:34, "Michael Schmalle" <apa...@teotigraphix.com> wrote:

Yes, it does exist and Google has don a fine job promoting their layout
designer etc.

Coming from years of Flex development and MXML application design I can
certainly say that although using XML as they do is great, having a
compiler like the MXML compiler could offer a huge abstraction that their
XML could not match.

Plus the extension side of being able to produce their layout XML OR
straight Java constructs is compelling enough for me to want to try it.

One of the great things I am realizing about Apache is I don't work for a
corporation and even the WC3. I work for myself fulfilling something I see
that could help "something", maybe myself as centered as that sounds.

Regardless of this idea I have, my point is this. One of Adobe's marketing
schemes was to throw crap on every wall possible and market it as such with
huge holes in between.

Apache Flex will get a new life if us committers and community realize it
didn't work then and it won't work now. (The one size fits all). I want to
start off with point specific tools that do 1 thing. I have developed
enough tools to know you don't invent a swiss army knife until you have
invented the knife, screwdriver, cork opener etc. Once you have all the
tools you can then put them together.

As far a JavFX well, I don't know I haven't used it.

Like I said, I have no stake in Flex and I want to stay away from the
Flash Player and AIR. This doesn't mean I won't contribute if momentum goes
in a certain direction, just that I want my own dream that isn't canned
into the cliche'd 2012 HTML5 hype.

Mike



Quoting Carlos Rovira <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com**>:

 Hi Michael,

could you explain a bit more?. Your idea is about make XML layout for
Android based on Falcon?. I don't know to much about native android
development but this does not exit yet?

btw, a coworker showed me latest version of JavaFX and I think it would be
a good idea for all of us here to see this new version since I think it's
very promising. I saw many things copied from flex (skins, skinparts, xml
layout declaration, netbeans desing view editor,...). If JavaFx is as good
as it seems to be, I think it could be a decent competitor, taking into
account that thinks like eclipse, maven and other industrial tools work
like a charm in java.



2012/11/14 Gordon Smith <gosm...@adobe.com>

 > MXML -> Java Android UI like View and ViewGroup.

Interesting idea!

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Schmalle [mailto:apache@teotigraphix.**com<apa...@teotigraphix.com>
]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:07 PM
To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: [FALCON] It starts with an idea

Hey,

I just wanted to state this in a new thread so others might know my
intentions as a committer for the time being. Some of you might have
noticed I am quite interested in the compiler and plan on donating a lot
of
my time to it helping Gordon out with tests and trying to get the
community
involved by documenting some of the more obscure features.

One thing I want to note;

At this point in time in my life I really don't care about Javascript.
Really, I don't and it's never going to be a badge on my backpack of
life.

That being said, I see my contribution in the project a process of joy
and
invention. Just writing something to Gordon a second ago I realized what
that is. The only way I can continue is if I have a goal. That goal is
realized by the fact I program Java android and do extensive UI stuff
with
music applications I have coming up in the next 2 years using a Java C++
toolkit I have been working on the last
10 months.

What does this mean? MXML -> Java Android UI like View and ViewGroup.
Man I have no idea how the hell I could do it but I know I want to and am
going to try.

Getting into the MXML compiler the last couple days reminded me of the
diamond in the haystack we have.

Anyway, more thoughts to come, this was a off the cuff ramble.

Peace,
Mike



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