On 10/19/12 12 :11PM, "Mikhail Vorobyov" <vorobyov.mikh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Why don't you want to set AIR 3.4 and playerglobal11_4.swc for downloading >but only 3.1 and 11.1? Neither of those are officially supported with Apache Flex 4.8. They may work but we haven't tested them yet. Apache Flex 4.8 was a parity release with Adobe Flex 4.6 which runs with FP11.1 and AIR 3.1. Carol > >2012/10/19 Om <bigosma...@gmail.com> > >> It is not about 7 RCs. The 7th RC just got enough votes and we are >>going >> to promote it to an actual release. >> >> Close to 20 people voted +1 and we got 2 -1s. As a release manager, I >> think this is good enough for a release. >> >> The issue is not blocker since there is an obvious workaround. And >>there >> are no security implications. >> >> I would rather release now than wait for yet another arbitrary deadline >> (4.8.1) >> >> Thanks, >> Om >> On Oct 19, 2012 8:06 AM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: >> >> > I'm not going to change my vote at this point, but consider these >>points: >> > >> > 1) Why would doing a point release right after be less work and get >>more >> > involvement? >> > 2) Why do we think we will get two other mentor/IPMC votes if they >>review >> > the dev-list and see this issue? >> > 3) Why do we think we will get mentor/IPMC attention again right away >> with >> > a >> > follow-up point release >> > 4) I have seen this issue twice in English, but wasn't able to >>reproduce >> > it. >> > 5) I would rather the next installer release coincide with a new >>Apache >> > Flex >> > SDK release like a 4.8.1 in a month or so from now. >> > >> > To me, 7 RC's is not a lot. Sometimes, important bugs get found late >>in >> > the >> > game. Sure, it is frustrating, but you will certainly get enough PPMC >> > votes >> > on an RC8. However, right now we are waiting on getting IPMC votes >>and I >> > don't know why they would vote just to get something out the door if >>it >> > isn't handling strings properly. >> > >> > >> > On 10/19/12 5:51 AM, "Stefan Horochovec" <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Hello everybody, >> > > >> > > The installer works, as I spent the walkthrough in JIRA and in my >>last >> > > email, that information may be contained on the page to access the >> > > Installer. >> > > >> > > I upgraded my vote to -1 because I have found a bug. I shared the >>same >> > > opinion of Christophe Herreman, it´s my opinion too. Where he said: >> > > >> > > "I'm not trying to be negative. I'm just worried that this will >>lead to >> > > frustration and a feeling of low quality coming from Apache Flex to >>the >> > > users." >> > > >> > > But I also agree with you that we need this release which is being >> > awaited >> > > for so long, and for sure will help many people to have the new >>Apache >> > Flex >> > > SDK. >> > > >> > > Erik and Om >> > > >> > > I opened a ticket [1] in JIRA with the comparison of the >>translations >> of >> > > languages available today, and put them separate group with all the >> > > messages. I would suggest this as the default for new messages, to >>make >> > it >> > > easier to find what should be done the translation, because when you >> add >> > a >> > > new key, you can already tag them in an area of translation for each >> > > language. The work of comparing one by one consuming too much time. >> > > >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33224 >> > > >> > > Regards >> > > >> > > Stefan Horochovec >> > > >> > > >> > > 2012/10/19 Christophe Herreman <christophe.herre...@gmail.com> >> > > >> > >> OK all, thanks for the feedback. I agree that we need to release >>often >> > and >> > >> early, although in certain cases it doesn't feel quite right. >> > >> >> > >> Since there are no blocking issues, a release is justified I guess. >> > >> >> > >> +1 (binding) >> > >> >> > >> regards, >> > >> Christophe >> > >> >> > >> 2012/10/19 Om <bigosma...@gmail.com> >> > >> >> > >>> This issue will be fixed in the next release. >> > >>> >> > >>> I know and agree that this is not perfect, but we cannot delay a >> > release >> > >>> till we get everything perfect. We will never release anything >>if we >> > >> wait >> > >>> to fix every issue that we discover. >> > >>> >> > >>> This is not a release blocker issue, nor does it have security >> > >>> implications. We cannot delay the release any longer especially >> after >> > so >> > >>> many people have voted for the release. >> > >>> >> > >>> The patch has been contributed and it will be committed asap. We >> will >> > be >> > >>> making a follow up release soon. Also, we are shipping with an >>auto >> > >> update >> > >>> mechanism that will ensure that folks get the subsequent releases >>for >> > >> sure. >> > >>> >> > >>> Thanks, >> > >>> Om >> > >>> On Oct 19, 2012 1:57 AM, "Christophe Herreman" < >> > >>> christophe.herre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> Sorry about this, but why would you release the installer in it's >> > >> current >> > >>>> state? I know there is a lot of "pressure" and excitement to get >> this >> > >>>> released, but there are currently clearly some bigger issues with >> the >> > >>>> proposed RC in terms of translations. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> IMO it's better to delay the release until the most serious >>issues >> are >> > >>>> fixed than to release now, knowing that it will cause problems >>for >> > >>> (perhaps >> > >>>> a minor part of ) the users. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> I'm not trying to be negative. I'm just worried that this will >>lead >> to >> > >>>> frustration and a feeling of low quality coming from Apache Flex >>to >> > the >> > >>>> users. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> kind regards, >> > >>>> Christophe >> > >>>> >> > >>>> 2012/10/19 Carlos Rovira <carlos.rov...@codeoscopic.com> >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> Yes...please, release.... >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> 2012/10/19 Omar Gonzalez <omarg.develo...@gmail.com>: >> > >>>>>> Release, release, release!!! >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> -omar >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> On Thursday, October 18, 2012, Erik de Bruin wrote: >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Stefan, >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> I understand the problem, and I see the implications. That's >>why >> I >> > >>>>>>> push for a quick "point" update AFTER this release, to adress >> this >> > >>> and >> > >>>>>>> other known issues. In fact, I'll enter your fix into the >>source >> > >>> this >> > >>>>>>> weekend, if it checks out. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> However, I sense that after 7 (!) release candidates, a kind >>of >> > >>> 'vote >> > >>>>>>> fatigue' is setting in. By this I mean that if we do another >>RC, >> I >> > >>>>>>> think we might not get enough votes just because people will >>not >> > >>>>>>> bother to enter theirs again (and again, and again). >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> I therefor recommend that we use the votes we now have to do a >> > >>>> release. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> EdB >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Stefan Horochovec >> > >>>>>>> <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> Erik >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> It's possible to run the installer in operating systems that >> > >> have >> > >>>>>>> language >> > >>>>>>>> available on Installer and that is different from en_US, >> > >> however, >> > >>>>> have to >> > >>>>>>>> be done the process of changing the language of the installer >> > >> for >> > >>>>> en_US. >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> If you try to install and don't change the language to en_US, >> > >> the >> > >>>>>>>> installation dont work. >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Log of installation (sorry, in portuguese): >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Buscado o espelho da URL de download do SDK a partir do CGI. >> > >>>>>>>> Criando diretório do Apache Flex >> > >>>>>>>> Criando diretório temporário >> > >>>>>>>> Não foi possível criar o diretório temporário >> > >>>>>>>> Instalação abortada >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> And here you can see the steps: >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> 1 - >> > >>>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549807/step1.png >> > >>>>>>>> 2 - >> > >>>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549808/step2.png >> > >>>>>>>> 3 - >> > >>>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549809/step3.png >> > >>>>>>>> 4 - >> > >>>>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12549810/step4.png >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> In my opinion, this is a very critical problem, a time may >>come >> > >>> that >> > >>>>>>> affect >> > >>>>>>>> a large number of people. >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Stefan Horochovec >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> 2012/10/19 Erik de Bruin <e...@ixsoftware.nl> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Stefan, >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Thank you for your contribution! As we discussed, I'll look >> > >> into >> > >>>> your >> > >>>>>>>>> patches as soon as I can, and I'm sure they will prove valid >> > >> and >> > >>>>>>>>> useful. >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Would you agree that if we do an update soon, lack of true >> > >>>>>>>>> internationalisation shouldn't be a deal breaker for this >>first >> > >>>>>>>>> release? >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> EdB >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Stefan Horochovec >> > >>>>>>>>> <stefan.horocho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>> -1 >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> My first test was done in an environment in English, but >> > >> when I >> > >>>>>>> changed >> > >>>>>>>>> my >> > >>>>>>>>>> OS to my local language (Portuguese), to test the >> > >> translations, >> > >>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>> result >> > >>>>>>>>>> was not good. >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> In step where are defined which license will be accepted, >> > >> just >> > >>> no >> > >>>>>>> option >> > >>>>>>>>> on >> > >>>>>>>>>> the left appears only when the switch is made the selected >> > >>>>> language. >> > >>>>>>> Ex: >> > >>>>>>>>>> change to english, and then go back to my default language. >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> I submitted the bug in JIRA, and also submitted a patch >> > >> (which >> > >>> if >> > >>>>>>>>> accepted) >> > >>>>>>>>>> causes the installer to load the translation of default >> > >>> language >> > >>>> of >> > >>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>> installer and then load the installation user's language, >>so >> > >>> when >> > >>>>>>> getting >> > >>>>>>>>>> some text missing will interface with all texts, some not >> > >>>>> translated. >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> This whole environment is only valid when the Installer is >> > >>>> launched >> > >>>>>>> on an >> > >>>>>>>>>> operating system that contains a translation and the same >>is >> > >>>>> detected >> > >>>>>>> by >> > >>>>>>>>>> the installer before being read keys for translation into >> > >>>> English. >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-33223 >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Stefan Horochovec >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> 2012/10/18 Om <bigosma...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I will wait one more day for Dave Fisher to vote here. >> > >> After >> > >>>>> that I >> > >>>>>>>>> will >> > >>>>>>>>>>> post the vote thread on general. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Om >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Carol Frampton < >> > >>>>> cfram...@adobe.com >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> -- >> > >>>>> Carlos Rovira >> > >>>>> Director de Tecnología >> > >>>>> M: +34 607 22 60 05 >> > >>>>> F: +34 912 35 57 77 >> > >>>>> http://www.codeoscopic.com >> > >>>>> http://www.directwriter.es >> > >>>>> http://www.avant2.es >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> -- >> > >>>> Christophe Herreman >> > >>>> http://www.herrodius.com >> > >>>> http://www.springactionscript.org >> > >>>> http://www.as3commons.org >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Christophe Herreman >> > >> http://www.herrodius.com >> > >> http://www.springactionscript.org >> > >> http://www.as3commons.org >> > >> >> > >> > -- >> > Alex Harui >> > Flex SDK Team >> > Adobe Systems, Inc. >> > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui >> > >> > >>
