> On Mar 27, 2018, at 5:16 PM, wm4 <nfx...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 16:45:23 -0400
> Dave Rice <d...@dericed.com <mailto:d...@dericed.com>> wrote:
> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 4:33 PM, wm4 <nfx...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 16:11:11 -0400
>>> Dave Rice <d...@dericed.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Derek Buitenhuis 
>>>>> <derek.buitenh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/27/2018 8:52 PM, Rostislav Pehlivanov wrote:    
>>>>>> I think we should drop the internal crap if the tools and the API support
>>>>>> it. Would also solve a lot of issues like ffmpeg.c not trimming the start
>>>>>> frame (so people complain all the time about longer files).    
>>>>> 
>>>>> I personally agree, but I thought I'd be diplomatic about it, since it 
>>>>> would
>>>>> technically be losing a 'feature', since it would no longer Just Work(ish)
>>>>> and require user applications to apply timelines themselves - and I 
>>>>> figured
>>>>> some would argue that point.    
>>>> 
>>>> +1 I’m willing to contribute what information or samples would be needed 
>>>> to help with Matroska support with virtual timelines. IMO, this would be a 
>>>> valuable feature to have in ffmpeg.
>>>> Dave Rice  
>>> 
>>> Some explanations how this interacts with editions would be good.  
>> 
>> I put an example with two editions at 
>> https://archive.org/download/chapters_test/chapters_test.mkv which mimics a 
>> digitized video 
> 
> Also this file lacks a chapter end time in the second edition. How is
> that valid?

You’re right. I moved this discussion to cellar, but when the Edition is 
Ordered then ChapterTimeEnd is required.
Dave Rice

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