On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 16:09:57 +0000
"Mironov, Mikhail" <mikhail.miro...@amd.com> wrote:

> > 
> > Pavel Koshevoy (2017-11-27):  
> > > That is unnecessarily un-diplomatic and will likely offend the
> > > contributors from nvidia and amd.  
> > 
> > Well, I find offensive that they benefit from my work yet make extra efforts
> > to make sure I cannot benefit from theirs. Maybe I should start putting my
> > contributions under GPL and not LGPL, what do you think?
> >   
> > > Personally, I would prefer if the bundled external headers were
> > > installed together with ffmpeg public headers (so nvenc/cuda/etc...
> > > weren't simply private headers within ffmpeg).  There are some nvenc
> > > APIs I need to query hardware capabilities to avoid setting nvenc
> > > codec parameters that would cause the codec to fail to initialize via
> > > ffmpeg apis.  Given that ffmpeg already includes the headers that
> > > declare those APIs I've been able to use them without installing nvenc
> > > SDK separately, but since they are private headers in the ffmpeg
> > > source tree it feels dirty to do that.  
> > 
> > I understand it is more convenient for you than what the vendors provide,
> > but why should the effort of making things more convenient be carried by
> > the FFmpeg developers?
> > 
> > It has a non-negligible cost: more testing required, git grep pollution, 
> > all the
> > while giving these companies an unfair advantage against the companies that
> > play by the rules of Libre software and inciting them to continue in that
> > direction.
> > 
> > I think the whole compat directory is misguided, but these headers for
> > external libraries are the worse of it.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > --
> >   Nicolas George  
> 
> I wanted to stay out of license issues and this forum is oriented more 
> towards 
> technical discussion but I can't resist putting my two cents: Yes, HW 
> manufactures
>  live out of HW sell. And yes, integration with products like ffmpeg should 
> benefit them (us).
> But they(us) do not sell software. The enablement of HW acceleration adds 
> features to ffmpeg project.  
> And we do it ourselves. We also intend to contribute more. So it is mutually 
> beneficial.  Isn't it?

Well, don't worry too much. People like him are, as some would say,
toxic members of the community. Frequent drama and flame wars happen.
(And here's where I wished ffmpeg were a properly managed project.)
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