On Sat, 29 Aug 2015, Robert Krüger wrote:

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Robert Krüger <krue...@lesspain.de> wrote:



On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Carl Eugen Hoyos <ceho...@ag.or.at>
wrote:

Robert Krüger <krueger <at> lesspain.de> writes:

> Do you mean processing the top and bottom fields
> as separate progressive

Yes.
(Sorry, I thought this is what "deinterleaving and
interleaving" means.)

> streams?

Not necessarily "streams", just not processing them
interlaced but deinterleaved.
If this leads to shadows, then I would suggest to
use two framerate instances.


I understand the variant with processing the fields as separate streams
with two framerate instances, but not the other one. One would have to test
but the more I think about it, I think it could very well work and result
in better quality as the deinterlacing/reinterlacing obviously destroys
motion information.

One would probably have to make tests with interlaced footage that
contains a lot of motion.

It would certainly be interesting to see that filter chain, though. I
haven't worked with the il filter at all, so I would have to read up on
that first.


Which I should have done first. I read the il filter docs and now I
understand what you mean. If I am correct in assuming, what the framerate
filter does, this might work just with one stream and would do what I
described as using two streams.

I am afraid I still don't understand how a non-deinterlacing approach can give better quality. Without deinterlacing you will blend frames which are 2 units distant in time, with deinterlacing you blend frames which are 1 unit distant.

Consider you have a 25i source, and you want 30i (60p for display)

Are you referring to this filter chain for deinterleaving?

-vf il=l=d:c=d,framerate=30,il=l=i:c=i,yadif=1

And this for deinterlacing?

-vf yadif=1,framerate=60,interlace,yadif=1

The second is much, much better.

Regards,
Marton
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