Hi all,
On 11/24/2024 1:49 PM, James Almer wrote:
On 11/24/2024 6:24 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Hi
On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 06:02:55PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
On 11/24/2024 5:43 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Hi
On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 04:11:42PM -0300, James Almer wrote:
On 11/24/2024 4:09 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
Now reality is, Paul (the 2nd most active developer of all time)
was bullied
out of FFmpeg. In private mail he spoke about being treated like
a slave.
Huh?? By whom?
by the community, by us all
maybe "bullied" is a badly choosen word here, but the way i
understand it, is paul
dislike having to deal with "disturbing" reviews
I think only Nicolas was against his patches in general, sometimes
for a
fair reason, others probably not so much. I at least helped him
every time i
could.
There has to be another reason for him to leave like he did.
Iam fairly sure, if we would have left him change whatever he wants
in his
code and gave him final authority there that he would not have left.
But he could do that. He did it all the time, and rarely got
opposition since it was almost always for filters he wrote and
maintained.
BUT i do not know that
He also pushed patches to his stuff bypassing the mailing list and
review
process. It introduced a bug or 2 and I think i pointed that out. I dont
remember at all how i worded that.
And there was teh conflicts where he pointed to bugs but refused to
provide
samples or details, making fixing them often impossible. While he caused
this it lead to further friction. This really feels like a failure of
mutual
understanding, noone benefitted from this
Not adding test was a problem, yes. Such a trivial thing to do for
most filters and he'd still refuse.
Also teh CC was re-elected at the time of him leaving IIRC. He may
have preceived
that a ban or harsh actions against him where imminent from the new CC.
Thing is that nothing like that was imminent.
He got a temp ban (like a week?) after several warnings for being too
aggressive in his replies. I don't know why he was aggressive to begin
with, and i even asked him to stop before anything was done.
I dont know how to undo the decissions from the past. But i want to undo
what led to paul leaving
Sorry to interfere into your conversation, I just wanted to say
important things here.
Emotions are human, and to stay human with its own emotions are
essentials since it's from our mistakes
and the mistakes of other than we can mutually learn from each other.
This said, ban someone because he/she 's too agressive or even
insulting, at the end a lose lose will occur. Rather, if no ban is done,
ok, after the storm, calm will come
and compromise will be done, all the time...
this is just a share of my life experience...
Cheers
David Jefferson
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